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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 14:13:03 GMT
![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) Hello well I did some mixing last Wednesday and well what can I say, I'm not that impressed. Some of them are 'orrible, but I'm having a vape anyway. ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) . I made all at 18mg strength, chocolate, pecan pie, mocha, capuccino, vanilla and amaretto. I followed the ejuice calculator, but to be honest they don't have a lot of smell or flavour. Now my question is can I just keep adding more drops of flavouring or can I perhaps just mix 2 of them together in one bottle? Please bear in mind, I am a complete beginner and only on the first rung of my apprenticeship. I don't give up easily but just need a little voice to say GO ON GIVE IT A TRY ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) I would be so grateful for any advice ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by Roger on Jan 28, 2013 14:16:58 GMT
Post your recipes (amounts etc) then we can have a look and see if there is anything obvious. ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png)
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Post by giles on Jan 28, 2013 15:28:54 GMT
Sounds like you need more flavour. Some of the reviews suggest mixing these flavours at 5%, but I need more like 20%. Also you may need a couple of days more steeping. You can add drops of flavour, but I'd make up a new batch with a lot more flavour, leave it a week and see what it tastes like. If it is too strong then you can mix a little with the original liquid, find a balance. (You've labelled them carefully of course, so you will know what % to use next time) GO ON GIVE IT A TRY ![::)](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/N0IhREh7uFcTjsME5Y1s.gif)
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 15:36:48 GMT
Right here goes............ to make 5ml of 18mg the following as per ejuice calculator Chocolate: 33 drops nic juice 56 drops VG 10 drops chocolate flavour same recipe for the other flavours. What do you think...........up the flavour drops? ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) I soooooo want to succeed ![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Its been steeping since Wednesday, tastes no better now than it did then ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif)
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 15:39:06 GMT
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Post by Skwoddy on Jan 28, 2013 15:52:05 GMT
That does seem awfully low at 10 drops and chocolate isnt particularly strong anyway, as a general guide you can work at 20% unless its a tobacco flavouring which are all very strong, part of the fun is finding the balance but it can be frustrating, so do a mix or two at 20% and as already said if its too strong you can dilute it with an unflavoured mix.
That said, some fruit juices and creams and coconut can all be a little overpowering, its all a bit trial and error but there are some more convincing recipes on this forum for you to try, frogsters in particular.
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Post by Roger on Jan 28, 2013 15:56:52 GMT
Whose flavourings are you using, 10% may be a little low as Giles says. Also what strength base and what final PG/VG % are you after??
As has already been said try a mix at a lot higher flavour. Most of all, don't beat yourself up if you don't get it right straight away, it can take a while to get mixes how you like them. Keep some of your favourite commercial liquid in to keep you going while you experiment.
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 16:02:45 GMT
I am using TW Platinum Ice 54mg and am aiming for 18mg. I'm using TW Gold standard flavouring. When I came to mixing the recipe, I asked for help because I only had VG and was advised to add the PG and VG drops on the recipe chart together so I could just have VG. I'm getting plenty of vape which is great but not much flavour and taste ![:(](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/sad.png) Thank you for helping me ![;)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/wink.png)
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Post by giles on Jan 28, 2013 16:10:20 GMT
I'd mix 33 drops nic juice, 42 drops VG, 25 drops flavour. That will probably be a little too strong, and you'll end up mixing maybe 4 parts of that to one of your original mix.
Incidentally, I wouldn't do anything of the sort, because I can't count beyond 13 ( I play cards). I'd buy a 2ml syringe, and put in 1.2ml flavour, 1.7ml nic, 2.1ml VG.
Did your VG come from a vaping shop or a supermarket? If its a supermarket you should add vodka or ionised water to it first (maybe 10 or 15%).
If your nic is PG base that'll probably give you around 40/60 VG/PG.
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Post by Roger on Jan 28, 2013 16:20:17 GMT
As an aside, TW are expensive for base. £34.99 for 100ml, compared to say Postmodern £15.99 for 100ml. I tried the Gold standard flavours once and once only!!!! ![:-X](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/fjsoKjXamcLHp5qOC1cm.gif)
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 16:20:59 GMT
Oh thank you #KissBlowSmiley1# I got the VG from TW as well and yes the nic is PG based. I have some syringes now but didn't have them at the time. I just had a thought #icon_idea# , when I added the nic drops and VG drops, I used a dropper that came with the nic juice but the flavour drops, I added straight from the bottle and the latter were much tinier drops. I am almost certain that could be the problem because theoretically the flavour drops would equate to about half the size of the nic and VG ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/tp5PrWyI_PKJl_LSRuh9.gif) What do you think?
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 16:25:25 GMT
![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Thank you Roger, I was quite fortunate and got my ingredients at quite a reasonable cost because I jumped on their YoYo sale and happened to be in the right place at the right time. Thank you for the advice about the flavourings, I am going to get some from TAC and some Capella, F'Art and CCW.
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Post by giles on Jan 28, 2013 16:29:06 GMT
I added straight from the bottle and the latter were much tinier drops. I am almost certain that could be the problem because theoretically the flavour drops would equate to about half the size of the nic and VG ![:-/](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/tp5PrWyI_PKJl_LSRuh9.gif) What do you think? That seems likely to me Sue. I'd use the syringe. But I still think you are likely to want a stronger mix than 10%
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Post by sue1952 on Jan 28, 2013 16:32:36 GMT
![:)](//storage.proboards.com/forum/images/smiley/smiley.png) Right off to make another batch using the syringe method ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif) just going to make one bottle and see how it goes. Will let you know and thanks so much. ![;D](//storage.proboards.com/2973975/images/uKg77DgrQpkBFJJN7U0P.gif)
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Post by giles on Jan 28, 2013 16:33:51 GMT
Incidentally, I vape mostly chocolate (with mint and a little coconut) and tried a few different ones and decided that they are all pretty similar (wrote a review) so I'd go for CCW for that because it is cheapest. Coffees on the other hand are all different.
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