ECCA AGM 14th of april. Any requests?

[gibla53]

Well done MarkS and Matt 1988 on your appointment as forum rep and treasurer respectively ,but a very annoying night though apart from that , the meeting had a majority of interested members but a number of things happened

1 Trolls .... what purpose of their silly games ?

2 Mud-Slinging between Chris (Roly) and some guy Ged who someone was trying to promote but he wasn't seemingly interested? ..... not a good way to operate a meeting

3 Chris unfortunately dominated the meeting in the early part and I feel sure that most folks wanted the meeting to progress at that stage

4 MarkS your idea of people writing out a covering thread posted on the ECCA website explaining their position and reasons for taking on the various roles is a great one ........ Without false modesty now what about yourself ?

Alan

[matt1988]

MarkS can't possibly be forum rep and Chair, maybe Jemima would take the roll back

[giles]

My internet connection died. What happened?

[matt1988]

giles not much, Roly, some guy called Ged having a slanging match, and the meeting got adjurned for a week, and nominees are placing a covering letter on ECCA forums to state why they would be suitable for the chairmans role.

We will vote (I presume) at the same time next week.

[vereybowring]

That was a disaster, the meeting had no control and I don't think the software was really up to it.
Roly should not have given the personal opinion he had in the way he did and Ged didn't do himself many favours either.

Congrats to forum reps though, at least that was mostly sorted out although that was the only bit that I personally thought was handled well.

[matt1988]

Apr 15, 2013 0:36:40 GMT vereybowring said:

That was a disaster, the meeting had no control and I don't think the software was really up to it.
Roly should not have given the personal opinion he had in the way he did and Ged didn't do himself many favours either.

Congrats to forum reps though, at least that was mostly sorted out although that was the only bit that I personally thought was handled well.

I agree, although IMO only those that use the forum should vote towards their rep. But hey ho its little things.

[MarkS]

Apr 15, 2013 0:03:44 GMT gibla53 said:

Well done MarkS and Matt 1988 on your appointment as forum rep and treasurer respectively ,but a very annoying night though apart from that , the meeting had a majority of interested members but a number of things happened

1 Trolls .... what purpose of their silly games ?

2 Mud-Slinging between Chris (Roly) and some guy Ged who someone was trying to promote but he wasn't seemingly interested? ..... not a good way to operate a meeting

3 Chris unfortunately dominated the meeting in the early part and I feel sure that most folks wanted the meeting to progress at that stage

4 MarkS your idea of people writing out a covering thread posted on the ECCA website explaining their position and reasons for taking on the various roles is a great one ........ Without false modesty now what about yourself ?

Alan

It descended into a farce.

It did confirm though that if a meeting cannot be moderated and run in a correct manner, ECCA does not have the right people in the job.

In fairness there was an element there that had no other intention than to disrupt the meeting and they should have been dealt with swiftly.

Alan I have been vaping for 2 months, the position requires someone with experience. It's flattering to be nominated but I would decline for that very reason.

i think I will post more on this tomorrow as I'm rather pee'd off with our it all ended to be honest.

[Jemima]

Apr 15, 2013 0:06:56 GMT matt1988 said:

MarkS can't possibly be forum rep and Chair, maybe Jemima would take the roll back

Don't look at me ... stabbed in the back I was MarkS lol

That is a joke btw , I do wish Mark the best of luck and if you need me just shout, although if I can do it you will find it easy!

Gratz as well to Matt, not sure if I could do much to help you but I can count to 10 if u need me lol

[MarkS]

Would you Chair Jemima?

[Jemima]

Hell no I sucked at forum rep lol

[gibla53]

Apr 15, 2013 0:47:46 GMT MarkS said:

Apr 15, 2013 0:03:44 GMT gibla53 said:

Well done MarkS and Matt 1988 on your appointment as forum rep and treasurer respectively ,but a very annoying night though apart from that , the meeting had a majority of interested members but a number of things happened

1 Trolls .... what purpose of their silly games ?

2 Mud-Slinging between Chris (Roly) and some guy Ged who someone was trying to promote but he wasn't seemingly interested? ..... not a good way to operate a meeting

3 Chris unfortunately dominated the meeting in the early part and I feel sure that most folks wanted the meeting to progress at that stage

4 MarkS your idea of people writing out a covering thread posted on the ECCA website explaining their position and reasons for taking on the various roles is a great one ........ Without false modesty now what about yourself ?

Alan

It descended into a farce.

It did confirm though that if a meeting cannot be moderated and run in a correct manner, ECCA does not have the right people in the job.

In fairness there was an element there that had no other intention than to disrupt the meeting and they should have been dealt with swiftly.

Alan I have been vaping for 2 months, the position requires someone with experience. It's flattering to be nominated but I would decline for that very reason.

i think I will post more on this tomorrow as I'm rather pee'd off with our it all ended to be honest.

I agree with what you say about organising and running meetings ..... that was a classic example of how not to do ,

Like you I have only vaped for 2 months ... I honestly don't think that makes any difference at all ... What is required in the chairman role is someone who has  a lot of communication skills , tech savvy , passionate etc etc   it makes no difference if you have vaped for 2 months or 2 years  . Experience of the outside world of how things operate I agree with that because its that business sense or experience of taking part in meetings that are the skills that are required ..... off the soapbox now . I along with the vast majority who were at the meeting are equally as peeed of as you . Still cannot get my head round the fact of how it degenerated into a total farce !!!!

Alan

[matt1988]

Apr 15, 2013 0:53:16 GMT Jemima said:

Apr 15, 2013 0:06:56 GMT matt1988 said:

MarkS can't possibly be forum rep and Chair, maybe Jemima would take the roll back

Don't look at me ... stabbed in the back I was MarkS lol

That is a joke btw , I do wish Mark the best of luck and if you need me just shout, although if I can do it you will find it easy!

Gratz as well to Matt, not sure if I could do much to help you but I can count to 10 if u need me lol

Great, can you teach me how to count to 5?

[matt1988]

All I can say at this moment in time, I'm glad we have ECITA who has the know how (and funds) to fight the EU. As if it was down to just ECCA the ban would be in place already!

[gibla53]

Apr 15, 2013 1:06:20 GMT matt1988 said:

All I can say at this moment in time, I'm glad we have ECITA who has the know how (and funds) to fight the EU. As if it was down to just ECCA the ban would be in place already!

A very true comforting thought .... but still amazed at last nights events , you are right though a ban would be in force by now .

[giles]

Thanks for the update matt1988

I have to say I was deeply unimpressed with both Roly & Ged.

I don't think it needs a lot of experience of vaping MarkS I think it needs experience of running an organisation of some sort, and ideally some experience of dealing with politicians and bureaucrats. But it would also be a great deal of work. If you do decide to go for it I'll help if I can.