ECCA AGM 14th of april. Any requests?

[giles]

As far as I can tell from the ECCA forum Roly seems to think he has been elected Chairman, and there are no plans for a further meeting.

[MarkS]

No giles he isn't the Chairman, I can confirm that the position is still open.

I just do not think voting on it will be within the next week or so.

[matt1988]

Apr 15, 2013 15:53:54 GMT MarkS said:

No giles he isn't the Chairman, I can confirm that the position is still open.

I just do not think voting on it will be within the next week or so.

I hope it's not at the next AGM

[markm]

Wow still rolling around the same problem,
ECCA is never going to untangle this, they are two conflicting threads they want to follow.
You can't play in commercial world and claim impartiality, it's just impossible.
I really was only half joking when I suggested earlier that private users need a political group.

One that has only a single issue to concentrate on, without being held back by a separate functionary commitment.
Vapers for justice could happen, if people really wanted to do it.

[matt1988]

Apr 15, 2013 22:07:20 GMT markm said:

Wow still rolling around the same problem,
ECCA is never going to untangle this, they are two conflicting threads they want to follow.
You can't play in commercial world and claim impartiality, it's just impossible.
I really was only half joking when I suggested earlier that private users need a political group.

One that has only a single issue to concentrate on, without being held back by a separate functionary commitment.
Vapers for justice could happen, if people really wanted to do it.

Lol, there are members saying that RY4, ECITA, VTTV and Smoke Without Fire are doing enough towards the political side, that then allows ECCA to focus on the consumer issue such as dodgy vendors and batteries. And that there will always be some political policies that ECCA need to fight.

Then on the flip side, like what has been covered here, is that if the EU does ban/medicinalise e-cigs then there will be no need to have ECCA and that those that are fighting the ban are fighting it for the TA and the majority of the market share is in look-a-likes and therefore will jump at only pre-filled cartos can be sold.

And as I have said in ECCAs forums, it's really hard to say which way we should go, I think what it comes down to is who is elected for Chair, and who ever gets the majority vote on their policies then so be it.

But what members, volunteers and the committee must do is fully support the Chairman/woman in the fact that, that is what the majority want. There is no point in having a split committee pulling against each other.

And myself speaking, as the Treasurer will commit and to support fully whichever route the elected Chair wants to go down.

[gibla53]

Apr 15, 2013 22:07:20 GMT markm said:

Wow still rolling around the same problem,
ECCA is never going to untangle this, they are two conflicting threads they want to follow.
You can't play in commercial world and claim impartiality, it's just impossible.
I really was only half joking when I suggested earlier that private users need a political group.

One that has only a single issue to concentrate on, without being held back by a separate functionary commitment.
Vapers for justice could happen, if people really wanted to do it.

I have read around all of the forums and the ECCA -UK webpages on this matter  today . The vast majority of postings advocate that ECCA simply concentrates on the education and political aspect at the moment . A few peeps make a strong anti- politics case but whats the point of a consumers association if the proposals are not defeated ?.

Hopefully some moves within the committee can get something rolling  or else !!!!

Alan

[markm]

Right here is a list of "events" for "Vapers for justice" this summer,
Red Vape Day - do something funny for Vaping.
The Vapervision song contest - write and perform a song on Youtube in support of vaping
Vape Wall Street, bring sandwiches.
The London Vaperthon, but might just be a bit of a stoll through the park.
The Vapers Olympics, speed coiling time trials and the largest smoke crowd, plus many other exciting events.