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Post by bones3 on Jun 1, 2013 11:47:48 GMT
oh 1 more thing please dont refer to them as dids as its a bit of an insult to Jim the maker of the DiD
just my opinion
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Post by farzooks on Jun 1, 2013 12:24:33 GMT
That old saying comes into play , u get what you pay for lol. dont get me wrong theres some good clones about but when there bad there bad try the verti from vapour hut . vapourhut.com/atomisers-cartomisers/Rebuildables/VH-GenesisI see VH are charging £25 for the real mccoy of this piece of shit. Honestly, I don't see any real difference between the two. The parts on the clone are made well enough, it's just the original design is total shit. If I'd been relieved of twenty-five smackers for this I'd have felt thoroughly pissed off and spitting feathers. As it is, paying a mere 8quid or whatever in funny foreign money feels as though I've still paid more than it's worth, but it's cheap enough to be chalked up to a learning experience and I'm actually quite glad, in a funny way, to have tasted what a SS wick can do. The Verti looks more like the thing and addresses a couple of the problems. vapourhut.com/atomisers-cartomisers/Rebuildables/VH-Verti
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Post by farzooks on Jun 1, 2013 12:29:46 GMT
oh 1 more thing please dont refer to them as dids as its a bit of an insult to Jim the maker of the DiD just my opinion Oh, really? You mean, there's somebody out there who's actually behind this design? I'd have been bloody ashamed of it.
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Post by gaz0012 on Jun 1, 2013 12:38:08 GMT
The proper DID is a cracking piece of kit and would rec to anyone dont let this cheapo put you off , do you own or owned any other genesis attys?
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Post by chrisjw on Jun 1, 2013 12:39:41 GMT
If I was you farzooks, I'd persevere with what you've got until you get it right before splashing out on something else that you may possibly not get on with either. If you can conquer whatever is happeing with your set up, I'm sure you'll like it. Just my thoughts.
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Post by robby on Jun 1, 2013 12:49:08 GMT
When it comes down to it, are the problems described fairly typical for any device that uses SS wicks for someone just starting out on them? It`s a learning curve and a longish one at that. I finally got one going well but when I got to the end of that journey, all the hype about SS wicks seemed over the top. Really cant be bothered with them now. That`s a personal opinion, give me a dripper anyday. Nothing like the flavour from a dripper. Yess, you have to keep topping up, but you will never get a better flavour hit than just after you have topped up. With a tank, you are going to get the constant condensation and re-condensation effect every time you vape until it is time to re fill. I found that the flavour near the end of the tankful was nowhere near as good as it was just after I filled it. Just my opinion folks.
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Post by farzooks on Jun 1, 2013 12:49:51 GMT
If I was you farzooks, I'd persevere with what you've got until you get it right before splashing out on something else that you may possibly not get on with either. If you can conquer whatever is happeing with your set up, I'm sure you'll like it. Just my thoughts. Two things occur immediately - a bigger filling hole and try some silica wick. The whole notion of using an electrically conductive wick is inherently flawed anyway and offends my sense of electrical engineering. Hmm... I wonder if a silica thread/ sleeve over the SS might work. As you say, if I can get this bugger working as I like, I will look at others, but might launch off sideways and make my own. What I really need is something that's totally, inherently leaktight at the bottom, entirely sealed and never needs to be disturbed. A wick or feed system that's foolproof, easily made, not fiddly - whether capillary or gravity is immaterial. A heating system that's easy to install, doesn't affect the settings of anything else when it's put in, and not subject to shorts, or erratic behaviour. As I said, I really enjoyed the taste - I will pursue that.
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Post by chrisjw on Jun 1, 2013 12:54:26 GMT
Good luck in finding all that............Let me know if you do...............
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Post by jeffc on Jun 1, 2013 13:37:00 GMT
Hi Farzooks stated: What I really need is something that's totally, inherently leaktight at the bottom, entirely sealed and never needs to be disturbed. A wick or feed system that's foolproof, easily made, not fiddly - whether capillary or gravity is immaterial. A heating system that's easy to install, doesn't affect the settings of anything else when it's put in, and not subject to shorts, or erratic behaviour.
You`ve just described the "Holy Grail" of atomisers.
When you find one,"please" let us know.
Keep trying your set up, if not successful, `leave it`, put to one side, go back another time and try set up again.
You will eventually succeed, and will be delighted that you persevered.
Good luck.
jeffc
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Post by oldsmokey on Jun 1, 2013 15:01:28 GMT
If your budget can stretch to it then I would recommend the RSST (Smok). Apparently it is a ripoff of a much more pricey atty (the AC9). I finally got round to setting mine up today, and, apart from the Kayfun (which I find exceptional in the flavour department), it is the best vape I've had since starting vaping a few months ago. I have been using an Aga T+ for a few weeks. I found it excellent (though a bit fiddly to set up). The RSST is much easier - insulated wick hole, room for a larger wick, and no possibility of the bottom end of the wick shorting out on the centre post or tank bottom. I was a bit suspicious of the spring-and-washer centre pin connection, but it turns out it's a breeze. I set up with a minimally-oxidised wick (which I probably wouldn't dare to do in the Aga) and the juice taste is amazing - plus no darkening of the juice in the tank.
I'm no expert, but this atty is a belter IMHO! It's dead easy to set up too - if I can do it anybody can....
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Post by robby on Jun 1, 2013 15:05:22 GMT
Gotta get me an RSST
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Post by oldsmokey on Jun 1, 2013 15:07:15 GMT
Gotta get me an RSST I would strongly recommend it Robby - not sure they come in brass though!
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Post by chrisjw on Jun 1, 2013 15:08:22 GMT
I have an RSST & it is a doddle...................
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2013 15:14:08 GMT
RSSTs ...
1) flash heat the mesh to get rid of impurities (optional step) 2) roll 3) insert, coil and attach 4) pulse mod to oxidise the wick where coil touches 5) fill with juice 6) enjoy
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