DID Repairable atomizer

[farzooks]

It arrived this afternoon, and after a short period finding out what to do with the stainless (oxydising it) and carefully wrapping five or six turns around it, it didn't work. Well, it did, it got hot, but it kept going 'Lo' on the Vamo and I kept going around the houses, plus there was an annoying air leak at the bottom of the outer skin, which translated into a leak of juice when at rest.

Anyway, I stripped it down and rebuilt it more carefully - turns out the tank distorts when there's the slightest bit too much tightening pressure put on it when the tank top is screwed down. Also, the balance of tightening forces of the centre screw and the tank is important. That's something to be careful of.
It would seem a max of 6W going through it is enough - 7W is ok to see where the hotspots are, but 4W to 6W for a normal vape is fine.
The wire supplied is 0.2mm Kanthal, and I'll try different stuff to see what happens.

This fruit juice I'm using (Vape Escape Fruit Mix) hasn't tasted as good since I first got it - turns out less is more, after all.

www.vaporbreak.com/en/did-rebuildable-atomizer/174-cheapest-did-rebuildable-atomizer.html#/tank_style-clear_tank

[farzooks]

Well, after a few hours of use, I can render a verdict on it.
When it works, it works very well, bringing out flavour and depth to the juices that the Vivi Nova and others just didn't.
Unfortunately, most of the time it doesn't really want to work, continually dipping 'Low' on the Vamo and necessitating a fiddle with the coil and pissing around again, and again, and again.
Ahah, I thought, I'll try another couple of turns, so put on 8 turns of Kanthal wire and re-oxydised the mesh. Didn't make any difference, still fiddle, poke, prod, fiddle, feck about.
Then I tried re-filling it with the normal needle I use for fiddly re-filling. Ohoh, this was priceless - every time I tried it, whatever went in the hole was squirted out of the wick, all over the top and down the side. I don't have a thinner needle as I've never needed one. The filling hole is stupidly small.
So, to sum it up - it's the biggest pile of crap I've ever paid money for and that's saying something.
Who the feck designed this? Were they stupid or just a bit mad? It's undergone absolutely feck-all useability testing and certainly isn't fit for purpose.
I really get the impression it was designed by a total amateur, who shouldn't really be allowed anywhere near any sort of equipment at all.
I was so disgusted with it, I nearly chucked it in the bin; but I decided I will address the shortcomings of this piece of crap because the flavour it produces is simply great. It needs a bigger tank, easier filling, easier coiling and easier sealing.
Apart from it being a total pile of crap, it's great.

[gaz0012]

That old saying comes into play , u get what you pay for lol. dont get me wrong theres some good clones about but when there bad there bad try the verti from vapour hut .

[chrisjw]

The reason the juice is coming back out of the mesh hole, is due to the mesh being too thick....Roll it a bit tighter so that the mesh moves easily in the hole & that'll cure it.....Also, try nudging the mesh away from the centre post a tad, so that the wire is taught.

I've got 4 of these & once you've got them set up right they're great....basically a baby version of the Aga-T.

[chrisjw]

Another thing.........make sure the centre post is making contact with the battery, by pushing it down from the top..........

[stu1873]

I tried to get my one working yesterday for the first time but had no joy at all. My Vamo kept saying it had 9.9ohms so gave up.

[chrisjw]

Jun 1, 2013 9:39:31 GMT stu1873 said:

I tried to get my one working yesterday for the first time but had no joy at all. My Vamo kept saying it had 9.9ohms so gave up.

Stu, have you checked the points I've made above?

[jeffc]

Totally agree with chrisjw, make sure that the centre post is pushed down from the top.

This will get rid of 9.9 ohms message, also make sure that your coil wire is trapped correctly in this post.

I spent 4 days `fiddling` with mine , now I can complete strip down and new install in less than 10 mins.

Keep trying, once you get it right it`s a great little atty for both `silica` and genesis set ups.

jeffc

[markm]

9.9 on a vamo means it cant see anything attached, your centre positive isn't in contact.

[stu1873]

I will have another go at it tonight. Thanks for the info guys.

[Deleted]

Practice makes perfect with these ... I bought one end of last year, hated it and never used it again - never seemed to be able to get rid of the hot spot on the top coil. Anyway moved onto AGAs and an RSST and they are much easier to coil and setup. If you like the vape when you have got the DID working, then investing in better atties is definitely the next step. RSST has to be the easiest device to setup I've encountered

[giles]

Yours looks like the one I bought on the classifieds farzooks. A griffin clone i think. If it is the "low" answer from the vamo may well go away (I had the same problem). I have the stainless steel tank so it doesn't distort, but of course you can't see what you are doing when you try to fill it.

I drilled out the air hole a little, but I bought it as a cheap way of getting the airy vape I sometimes want.

What might be more useful would be to drill out the wick hole. chrisjw 's suggestion wouldn't work for me unless I used a lot less mesh. It will be thicker to drill through of course, but I imagine the metal is pretty soft.

[robby]

I have a few variations on the theme, but the biggest advance so far is the RSST, havent got one yet, but that insulated hole where the SS wick goes through makes total sense. You have to watch the tiny nut closest to the bottom is well adjusted (same with all of these types) or you will get leaks or poor connection at the 510. So easy to move that a thread or two when you are tightening up the top coil connection.

[bones3]

May 31, 2013 18:51:21 GMT farzooks said:

It arrived this afternoon, and after a short period finding out what to do with the stainless (oxydising it) and carefully wrapping five or six turns around it, it didn't work. Well, it did, it got hot, but it kept going 'Lo' on the Vamo and I kept going around the houses, plus there was an annoying air leak at the bottom of the outer skin, which translated into a leak of juice when at rest.

Anyway, I stripped it down and rebuilt it more carefully - turns out the tank distorts when there's the slightest bit too much tightening pressure put on it when the tank top is screwed down. Also, the balance of tightening forces of the centre screw and the tank is important. That's something to be careful of.
It would seem a max of 6W going through it is enough - 7W is ok to see where the hotspots are, but 4W to 6W for a normal vape is fine.
The wire supplied is 0.2mm Kanthal, and I'll try different stuff to see what happens.

This fruit juice I'm using (Vape Escape Fruit Mix) hasn't tasted as good since I first got it - turns out less is more, after all.

www.vaporbreak.com/en/did-rebuildable-atomizer/174-cheapest-did-rebuildable-atomizer.html#/tank_style-clear_tank

when you have figured it all out and got your wicks set up correctly go and buy a proper DiD as they are much better than the cheapos and will never have to be replaced

[bones3]

May 31, 2013 23:15:26 GMT farzooks said:

Well, after a few hours of use, I can render a verdict on it.
When it works, it works very well, bringing out flavour and depth to the juices that the Vivi Nova and others just didn't.
Unfortunately, most of the time it doesn't really want to work, continually dipping 'Low' on the Vamo and necessitating a fiddle with the coil and pissing around again, and again, and again.
Ahah, I thought, I'll try another couple of turns, so put on 8 turns of Kanthal wire and re-oxydised the mesh. Didn't make any difference, still fiddle, poke, prod, fiddle, feck about.
Then I tried re-filling it with the normal needle I use for fiddly re-filling. Ohoh, this was priceless - every time I tried it, whatever went in the hole was squirted out of the wick, all over the top and down the side. I don't have a thinner needle as I've never needed one. The filling hole is stupidly small.
So, to sum it up - it's the biggest pile of crap I've ever paid money for and that's saying something.
Who the feck designed this? Were they stupid or just a bit mad? It's undergone absolutely feck-all useability testing and certainly isn't fit for purpose.
I really get the impression it was designed by a total amateur, who shouldn't really be allowed anywhere near any sort of equipment at all.
I was so disgusted with it, I nearly chucked it in the bin; but I decided I will address the shortcomings of this piece of crap because the flavour it produces is simply great. It needs a bigger tank, easier filling, easier coiling and easier sealing.
Apart from it being a total pile of crap, it's great.

1st you have to start with a low voltage on a fresh wick and biuld the volts up over time as the wick beds in
2nd a 18gauge dispensing needle is needed to fill these as the hole is 2mm
3rd when you do come to fill it make sure your needle is juice free(on the outside) and the fill hole is free of juice aswell or other wise the air cant escape as the juice goes in!! hence when you fill(push) your juice in it the pressure build up will push your juice up your wick and cause your problem