Very good article

[4madcats]

Definitely need more articles like this

www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2013/06/13/comment-this-puritanical-attack-on-electronic-cigarettes

[Blownupdolly]

That is a very good find madcat.
I am surprised no one else has commented so far. Does anyone know who the author Ian Dunt is?

[womble]

Dave Dorn from VTTV tweeted it this morning. I thought it was good. Didn't think to post it here

[4madcats]

Jun 14, 2013 14:32:56 GMT Blownupdolly said:

That is a very good find madcat.
I am surprised no one else has commented so far. Does anyone know who the author Ian Dunt is?

Well I must admit I shamelessly nicked the link from UKV after reading it over there  . . . only thing I can find on Mr Punt is a very vague overviews on his career & these contact details, since it says he also write lifestyle reviews maybe someone wants to invite him to Vapefest

www.politics.co.uk/information/editorial-contacts







D ooh helps if I put the link in

[lynxkat]

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[Blownupdolly]

Jun 14, 2013 20:14:18 GMT lynxkat said:

That sure is a "very Good Article" not knocking the article in any way, but do you think he is aware of Vaping, sort of stepping up from e-cigarettes look alike's ?

Ask him. His email address is there.

[lynxkat]

Delate

[4madcats]

Jun 14, 2013 21:10:45 GMT Blownupdolly said:

Jun 14, 2013 20:14:18 GMT lynxkat said:

That sure is a "very Good Article" not knocking the article in any way, but do you think he is aware of Vaping, sort of stepping up from e-cigarettes look alike's ?

Ask him. His email address is there.

lynxkat ??? not sure why you keep deleting your posts so there are obviously some I've missed, but I think you'er missing the overall point . . where we stand now it doesn't matter whether peeps are using look-e-likes or Ego's / Mods whatever, right now we'er all in the same boat & the powers that be aren't going to bother differentiating, as far as they'er concerned if it vapourises nicotine it's an Ecig end of disscusion.

One of the really good paragraph's in this article for me is this

It is not a medicine. It should not be classed as a medicine. MHRA warns that nicotine levels in the product can be different to the level stated on the label. It also found nicotine per product differs from batch to batch and suggested this cast doubt on how helpful it was for people trying to quit. This conclusion shows how little conception the regulator has of the limited role of chemical addiction to nicotine, next to the social and psychological weight of habitual usage. As an addiction, nicotine is very light. As a habitual occupation, it is very strong indeed.

We'er fighting against a society that has spent the last 30/40, how ever many years demonising nicotine because of it's association with cigarette's . . it has become the big-bad, the destroyer & those with tunnel vision who have already made their minds up are never going to accept anything different.

We need to start changing the common perception of nicotine amongst joe public, even if it's only to extent that they accept "clean" nicotine outside of a ciggie is not harmful so let those who want to participate get on with it. Sure it's a massive ask, but the more people who accept this the chances are the more people, not just vapers, will support us on the civil liberties aspect of this fight & every little bit helps.

[matt1988]

Isn't there a study somewhere that says clean nicotine can help alzheimer's patients. And were looking at prescribing NRTs. Not sure where I read it .

[4madcats]

Jun 15, 2013 14:03:33 GMT matt1988 said:

Isn't there a study somewhere that says clean nicotine can help alzheimer's patients. And were looking at prescribing NRTs. Not sure where I read it .

This was published in the British Jorunal of Addiction way back in 1991

www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/1859921

Nicotine in tobacco brings illness and death to millions of people. Yet nicotine in its pure form has the potential to be a valuable pharmaceutical agent. Nicotine fairly specifically binds to the cholinergic nicotinic gating site on cationic ion channels in receptors throughout the body. This action stimulates the release of a variety of neurotransmitters including especially catecholamines and serotonin. When chronically taken, nicotine may result in: (1) positive reinforcement, (2) negative reinforcement, (3) reduction of body weight, (4) enhancement of performance, and protection against; (5) Parkinson's disease (6) Tourette's disease (7) Alzheimers disease, (8) ulcerative colitis and (9) sleep apnea. The reliability of these effects varies greatly but justifies the search for more therapeutic applications for this interesting compound.

& a slightly prophetic last sentence from this piece, published by Columbia University, don't know when. 

www.columbia.edu/cu/21stC/issue-3.1/benowitz.html

Yet nicotine need not forever play the villain, both Role and McGehee say. Pharmaceutical companies could reap fortunes, they argue, by developing a safe drug delivery system. "A company that develops a nicotine delivery system as effective as cigarettes--without the detrimental effects--would do very well. Few known drugs enhance cognitive performance," Role says. "I think that society could accept nicotine eventually." -- Steven Benowitz

[Karma]

Nicotine 'therapy' has been suggested as an area to look at to control the symptoms of Ulcerative Colitis!

Unfortunately, I don't have a link

[4madcats]

Jun 15, 2013 16:29:10 GMT Karma said:

Nicotine 'therapy' has been suggested as an area to look at to control the symptoms of Ulcerative Colitis!

Unfortunately, I don't have a link

Lots of links out there but just picked this one written in reasonable plain english


www.medscape.com/viewarticle/775152