Nic strength maybe? Want more flavour...

[xs2man]

Hey guys, looking for a little advice here.

When I first started vaping, a couple weeks ago, I got the 36mg stuff, and it was grand.  Hit the spot, and tasted fine.

Now though, it's like I barely get any flavour.  I get like a metallic sort of taste.  Now I have a Vamo, but I run it on low wattage (generally around 6 watts) as any higher and it just seems to tast worse.  Although occasionally I try it at 10 or 15 even, and it is okay, but then the next time it is poop.  I often just run my blister pack battery, and it is fine mostly, but again, lacking the taste.  I do get throat hit mind, but if I'm honest, I aint a fan.  I'd rather loose the throat hit and get more flavour.

Now, I am thinking it MAY have something to do with the nic strength?  Or is it just that my buds are now in full vaping swing, and this is what it really tastes like?  i.e.  I'm slightly desensitised.

Now, today I got some vapemail.  Which included my own DIY mixing kit.  So maybe not today, but hopefully my tomorrow, if my other flavours come in, I will have a go at doing some DIY mixing.  Now is there any advantage in lowering the nic strength a little to release more flavour?

[DiscoDes]

When was the last time you changed your coil heads or used a new atomiser/clearomiser?

[xs2man]

I haven't changed a coil head yet, but none of my kit is anymore than about 10 days old now. And I have been rotating through 6 different clearos / tanks, so none of them have had that much use.

[Greigster]

Are you making sure the Vamo is in the number 2 mode?

Is it happening on all your clearo`s

[Pezz]

Over the first couple of months vaping I definitely noticed an improvement in taste - Like a lot of people I experienced vapours-tongue where it did not matter what I used it all tasted nasty. Lasted a few weeks and was a bit of a struggle to keep vaping, but in the end I used the time to use up some flavours that I wasn't particularly enjoying even when I could taste the juice.

I'd definitely try lowering nicotine and have a few different flavours on the go so you can switch out to something completely different.

DIY is great - It's letting me enjoy vaping as a hobby without going mad buying shiney things. I suggest making lots of 5ml samples, vary the PG/VG content and mix a few up at 24mg to see how you get on with them.

[xs2man]

Jul 31, 2013 16:40:34 GMT Greigster said:

Are you making sure the Vamo is in the number 2 mode?

Is it happening on all your clearo`s

Number 2 mode?

My Vamo is V4 btw.

[Greigster]

Jul 31, 2013 16:58:54 GMT xs2man said:

Jul 31, 2013 16:40:34 GMT Greigster said:

Are you making sure the Vamo is in the number 2 mode?

Is it happening on all your clearo`s

Number 2 mode?

My Vamo is V4 btw.

Ah OK, it presumably does not have the No. 1 mode? Is the problem happening with all your tanks?

[Didge]

I doubt that your equipment or nic levels are to blame, I suspect you're experiencing a natural change in your taste buds, it happens to most ex-smokers.

I also went through the vapours tounge stage, the only thing that seemed to clean my pallet was some "HS Menthol Sensation", often mixed with a small amount of fruit flavoured juice to add some interest. Ironically I enjoy many menthol juices but at the time only the HS stuff did the job.

Thankfully this stage doesn't last too long, the flavours will come back and offer far more interest than they currently are.

[dreamylittledream]

At the two week stage I have to agree with Didge - this is the bit where you're taste buds start going a bit nuts. I still suffer with this to some degree - often after a few drags of a flavour the taste often dulls away significantly.

So things that can help - inhale from the opposite side of your mouth to what sort of handed you are - i.e for me being right handed I pop the drip tip in the far left corner of my mouth and drag - strangely you get lots more taste from the inhale this way.

Exhale through your nose - I know there are no taste buds in your nose, but everything is linked together and the sensation of taste on the exhale is far more pronounced if you exhale some of the vape through the nose - no idea why.

The menthol as a palette cleanser is a good tip - if you have vapers tongue a very strong menthol combine vaped alternately with another flavour will give you far more taste from the other flavour. Joose juice do a killer strength menthol in their £1.49 taster range and its available in 24mg strength now with vg/pg mix to taste - I couldn't vape it all day but it really cleans things out.

Alternate your flavours - I normally have 3 clearos on duty in the day with me as I've yet to pin down an ADV - on a vapers tongue day one will have methol - another will have Chefs Vapour Lews Brew which no matter what sort of vaping day you are having it always tastes okay - never amazing but always satisfying (its kind of a milky coffee flavour) but a good backup if your taste buds are rebelling. But if one juice loses its taste switch clearos to another - you should get the new taste through really clearly for the first few drags if nothing else.

[xs2man]

I do generally have 2 flavours with me at all times anyway. But recently I just couldn't get enough of the Irn Bru flavour, hence why it's my all day vape. I have a menthol, and a couple different mints, so I'll give them a whirl.

Good thing I got a Protank and an iClear 30 in the post today, but I did load the iClear up with red bull, lol. Albeit only 16mg...

Yeah, I guess it could be the taste buds thing. Nothing has tasted right since I gave that cheesecake a whirl. Man it tasted good for the first couple drags, then it all went horribly wrong, lol.

[Chrissie]

@xs2manif you would like to try out a few different flavours very cheaply, have a look at Joose Juices' 10ml tasters.@ £1.49 -

www.joosejuice.co.uk/shop/category_TTR/10ml-Tasters.html?sessid=E5NsohiQUsepeSUQbnudWuYBexCbpb08SAlGLyv0VVriYtJddpMmwGiLyvPSssW9&shop_param=cid%3D%26

I bought quite a few of them for myself & a couple of neighbours. Got them yesterday & thought they need steeping, I tried out the Belgian Waffle straight away & it's lovely - taste exactly right & tons of vapour with the 50/50 mix I went for

[Beatnik]

Sounds like your buds have got use to he flavor, mine have done the same with the burley 18mg thinking of stepping up to the 24mg.

[xs2man]

Hmmmm.

I'm not so sure now what the problem is.

I got me an iClear30 through the post yesterday, so have been vaping away on it. Put in some Cherry I have (16mg) as it is a nice vape, just no kick to it (although as I type I did get a mini-headrush, but then I have been chain vaping 10 second pulls, so could just be a lack of oxygen). Now this flavour, in the iClear I can vape away happily at 8-10 watts and it tastes fine. To be fair, I vaped the same stuff ages ago in an evod and it was fine then too.

I can't decide if it's the iClear or the juice. And if it's the juice, is it the nicotine strength, or just the flavour? I am confused a little, lol.

I will have to finish out this cherry flavour, and slap some irn bru in it to see what that's like. Of course, by the time I get there, if it is my taste buds playing funny buggers, they could be fixed by then, lol.

[Perpetua]

Is it the flavour you feel is missing on the Iclear30 Xs2?

It can take a couple of tank fulls for a coil to get ' run in ' . . . as well as any taste bud holiday you may be having.

[dnglos]

Jul 31, 2013 16:29:55 GMT xs2man said:

Hey guys, looking for a little advice here.

Now, I am thinking it MAY have something to do with the nic strength?  Or is it just that my buds are now in full vaping swing, and this is what it really tastes like?  i.e.  I'm slightly desensitised.

I think it might be a bit of everything. I've been vaping about a year now and I had exactly the same experience. I also tend to vape at about 6 watts as I don't enjoy a hot vapour. I started out on 18mg juice but wasn't getting the throat hit I wanted. So I started mixing my own at 30mg and soon found I couldn't taste it at all. I came to the conclusion that a higher nic content was masking the flavour, so I now mix it at 24mg or buy ready-made juice at 18mg. There are times when I need a bit more of a throat hit (usually first thing in the morning) and I'll just up the power to 8 watts. And I'll often alternate between tobacco and fruit flavours. I find that works pretty well for me.

By the way, have you tried a bottom-coil clearomizer (like the protank)? It'd give a cooler vape than the iclear 30, which means you could probably run it at a higher power setting and still get a decent throat hit from a lower nic liquid.

And lastly, always bear in mind that vaping tends to cause dehydration - which will dull your sense of taste. So drink loads of beer while you're vaping, although water will do if you've run out of beer

Edit: Should've read the wole thread! I see you've got a protank - have you tried it yet?