Charger / Technical help please

[sammy13]

fred, just checking - do you want me to 5 click the battery off before I put it on charge?

[mikeb]

Wall charger 2 is only 150ma( 0.15A) so not powerful enough to charge your batteries, they need 420-500ma so that wall adaptor will take a lot longer to charge a battery.

[fred]

sammy13 I always leave mine on.

Yep - do what you said in the first post up there

I think both chargers will be working fine, it's just 1 may squeeze a wee-bit more charge in.

The best test will be seeing how long it vapes, after a charge on each charger.

I know exactly how you feel, as I had battery woes when I started - turns out, nowt was really wrong at all.

[fred]

Aug 6, 2013 19:03:45 GMT mikeb said:

Wall charger 2 is only 150ma( 0.15A) so not powerful enough to charge your batteries, they need 420-500ma so that wall adaptor will take a lot longer to charge a battery.

That's what I initially thought, but surely that is the input current? Output is 0-5A ?

[sammy13]

Wall charger 2 -
input =AC 100-240v 50/60hz 0.15A
output =DC 5v 0.5A

Means nothing to me, but figured it's important

[lal]

No answers for you, but when I charge through the USB port in my car the USB cable goes green much much faster than using a wall charger, and I've always got the sneaking suspicion that its still not fully charged

[mikeb]

Aug 6, 2013 19:14:29 GMT sammy13 said:

Wall charger 2 -
input =AC 100-240v 50/60hz 0.15A
output =DC 5v 0.5A

Means nothing to me, but figured it's important

Sorry, misread your first post.
Input, mains  at 150ma.
Output, 5volts at 500ma so should be ok
 Must be a bit lazy or it doesn't do what it says on the packet.

[sammy13]

Just so you can see what my wall chargers are-
This is charger 1
www.ukecigcabin.com/Ecig_Wall_Charging_Plug/p1893784_9872248.aspx
This is charger 2
www.skycig.co.uk/accessories/uk-adaptor

[DiscoDes]

Aug 6, 2013 20:22:40 GMT sammy13 said:

Just so you can see what my wall chargers are-
This is charger 1
www.ukecigcabin.com/Ecig_Wall_Charging_Plug/p1893784_9872248.aspx
This is charger 2
www.skycig.co.uk/accessories/uk-adaptor

Both of those have the same output, this part has different outputs:





Can you list what the writing is on these? There should be a sticker on the opposite side to the light.



For the technical; These have a current limiter in them so you can't FUBAR a Ego type battery some only give out 150 mA (like on the SD Keyring) standard is 500 mA for Ego type.

[Karma]

sammy13 I understand your stress about this especially if you're out the house for long periods of time.

Your batteries seem to be serving you well though, but your worry is that they're not fully charged to last you all day. If you only have 2 batteries there will come a time that 1 will fail. For a full time vaper that wants to stay off the ciggies you really need a back up battery which can be bought for less than £10.

If you have back ups you will find that you stress less about things such as how long batteries take to charge

[sammy13]

I only bought one of the chargers this week.
This has all come about from testing the charger which they say to do.
The battery should have taken longer to charge I thought than it did compared to what I was used to, so I put it on my older charger and it carried on charging which doesn't seem right.
So now I am trying to work out if my brand new charger is actually faulty.
I bought this charger as a backup to my other charger, but it is no good if it does not work.

[richieh]

My first post on here so be nice lol.
I have exactly the same symptoms- wont call it a problem yet.
I've got a power meter that measures exactly how many mah(that's how much electric volume if you consider a battery like an empty bottle) that a battery will take. I'll hook it up to the both chargers and a few different batteries to see what results I get later this week but I suspect that one charger is still trickle charging( trying to put tiny amounts of power) the battery when its close to full whereas the other charger shuts off quicker possibly before the battery is 100% full- maybe around 95% full or thereabouts.
In other words one charger is charging the battery more fully than the other.
Hope this makes sense- more detailed results to follow in a few days.
Have to go to new members and introduce myself now lol
Cheers Richie

[Karma]

I really do think you're over thinking things sammy13 .

I have a charger that I use mainly for my 18650 mod batteries, it tells me they are fully charged and says on the charger display that they are charged to 4.2. When I then put the batteries in a mod and check the charge the batteries show 4.1.

There will always be slight discrepancies, the main thing is that your batteries are working well and they don't sound like they are at all faulty, even so, don't risk charging overnight when you're not around. Always best to er on the side of caution

[Karma]

Aug 6, 2013 21:20:20 GMT richieh said:

My first post on here so be nice lol.
I have exactly the same symptoms- wont call it a problem yet.
I've got a power meter that measures exactly how many mah(that's how much electric volume if you consider a battery like an empty bottle) that a battery will take. I'll hook it up to the both chargers and a few different batteries to see what results I get later this week but I suspect that one charger is still trickle charging( trying to put tiny amounts of power) the battery when its close to full whereas the other charger shuts off quicker possibly before the battery is 100% full- maybe around 95% full or thereabouts.
In other words one charger is charging the battery more fully than the other.
Hope this makes sense- more detailed results to follow in a few days.
Have to go to new members and introduce myself now lol
Cheers Richie

That sounds about right Richie, nice to meet you 

[sammy13]

fred have you ever sat and watched a battery waiting for it to flash
DiscoDes the usb charger says -
input - DC5v
output - DC 4.2 v - 420mA

fred I did my first test with a partly charged spinner battery.
maccafan did an excellent write up on what should happen to a spinner on charge here - allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/12700/vision-vv-spinner?page=1&scrollTo=255675

I'll let you digest that first.