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Post by jonn on Aug 21, 2013 6:43:06 GMT
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Post by NickIcon on Aug 21, 2013 7:14:12 GMT
In comparison, I wonder how much an Ego starter kit and a few samples of eliquid for each smoker in the country would cost?
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Post by rincewind on Aug 21, 2013 7:21:18 GMT
Intersting piece also on the BBC CLICKY
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Post by supavape on Aug 21, 2013 7:22:25 GMT
Can't believe they are bragging about the fact they have helped 146,000 people over 10 years......at a cost to the NHS of £5753.00 per person. Whereas e cigarettes have helped an estimated 1.3 million over the last five years at no cost to the NHS. It is mind boggling.
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Post by markm on Aug 21, 2013 8:08:55 GMT
I can see why there may be some in the medical profession who are desperate to Get control over ecig s, then they can claim the successes. Pity that won't quite fit the MHRA model of ineffective/unavailable ecig products.
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Post by neptune on Aug 21, 2013 11:32:02 GMT
OMG talk about you couldn`t make it up. And I always thought it was Americans who couldn`t grasp the concept of irony. Jewel in the crown? More a case of the Emporer `s new Clothes, I would say.
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GunJack
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Post by GunJack on Aug 21, 2013 12:04:59 GMT
What utter, total and complete b0110cks !!!!!
apologies for the language, but where do they get these people from??
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Bluefish
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Post by Bluefish on Aug 21, 2013 21:51:37 GMT
Waiting on my cheque for £5753.00, in fact i'll be generouse make it an even 5k
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Post by mikeb on Aug 21, 2013 22:27:22 GMT
"Imagine a world in which the 1 billion people currently smoking cigarettes were ‘vaping’ electronic cigarettes instead. The death toll would be cut from more than 5 million to perhaps a few tens of thousands at most. E-cigarettes allow vapers to get their nicotine fix in a much purer form without all the carcinogens and poisons in tobacco smoke. Smokers and vapers typically inhale about 20mg of nicotine per day and at that dose it is probably no more harmful than a few cups of coffee. We know this because millions of lifelong users of the smokeless tobacco product ‘snus’ in Sweden get similar doses of nicotine with nothing like the harm that smokers experience.
So what is to prevent the advent of e-cigarettes from being perhaps the single most important public health breakthrough this century?
First the tobacco industry. I presume they don’t want to kill millions of people but they would clearly rather do this than see a fall in their profits. They are buying up e-cigarette companies but unless it turns out to be in their interest to get people using these instead of smoking, they will do everything they can to keep them to a small niche market. They might even see them as a way to get more people smoking cigarettes, for example as a ‘gateway’ product to smoking for young people.
Second, well-intentioned tobacco control advocates and regulators. Belief that any form of nicotine addiction is as bad as any other and concern that e-cigarette users might be exposed to harmful levels of nicotine or other toxins has already led to e-cigarettes in effect being banned in some countries and to other jurisdictions to consider regulating them in such a way that they will not be a viable alternative to smoking.
What do I think? I think this is too good an opportunity to miss. Of course regulation should ensure minimum manufacturing and labelling standards, but it should also be used to nurture their development as an alternative to smoking and an opportunity to legislate cigarettes out of existence." - Prof. Robert West.
This was written by the head of the research group that came up with that report on the NHS quit smoking efforts.
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Post by chykensa on Aug 21, 2013 23:18:25 GMT
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Post by djs on Aug 24, 2013 18:04:11 GMT
Can't believe they are bragging about the fact they have helped 146,000 people over 10 years......at a cost to the NHS of £5753.00 per person. Whereas e cigarettes have helped an estimated 1.3 million over the last five years at no cost to the NHS. It is mind boggling. Wow. Is that the cost? No competition.
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