are electronic cigarettes safe?

[markm]

Researchers do trawl forums to gather data all the time, one of the speakers
At the recent debate in the states specialises in that kind of research, sorry her name eludes
Me just at the moment.

[womble]

Oct 5, 2013 22:31:47 GMT ginge7289 said:

Oct 5, 2013 22:27:27 GMT womble said:

One thing I can guarantee is McCraven reads this forum and all the others.

In your dreams. She wants as far away from us as possible, others will, but she doesn't care enough to give us the time.

You will be surprised at the lengths the enemy will go to, to gather information. Where better to get it than from the horses mouth???

I know for a fact if I was fighting a cause against something I would be a member of a forum(s) that are the opposite to my cause, its a simple case on infiltration!!!!!!

I agree, but I think Linda is too high minded and single minded to do that. I think she thinks she is so much in the right, that she doesn't need to trawl the forums to get what she needs, others will, no doubt about it, but her, I don't think so.
i don't think Glenda does either, although I guess both of them have lackeys doing the deed, to keep them up to date.

[ginge7289]

i see a forum the same as facebook, if you dont want everyone else to know your business then dont post it. Someone you don't want to read it is reading it as you type.

As for research, its a no brainer to take information from here or other sites!!!!

[womble]

Oct 5, 2013 22:59:26 GMT ginge7289 said:

i see a forum the same as facebook, if you dont want everyone else to know your business then dont post it. Someone you don't want to read it is reading it as you type.

As for research, its a no brainer to take information from here or other sites!!!!

I'm not saying people don't read this forum, I'm replying to your direct posting, that Linda has either enrolled as a member, or reads this or other ecig forums. I don't think she does.

[Jaguar7777]

Politics ..... deception ..... intrigue.


Sounds like normal Forum Fodder to me.


Jag. (Who are you people?)


PS. Name the Movie that line came from.

[womble]

Oct 5, 2013 23:31:15 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Jag. (Who are you people?)


PS. Name the Movie that line came from.

Dunno, but it should be The life of Brian.

[Jaguar7777]

Oct 5, 2013 23:40:52 GMT womble said:

Oct 5, 2013 23:31:15 GMT Jaguar7777 said:

Jag. (Who are you people?)


PS. Name the Movie that line came from.

Dunno, but it should be The life of Brian.

lol Great answer ..... even if it is incorrect.


It's from Close encounters Of The third Kind.


Jag. (Always look on the bright side of your life ....................)

[hiddenusername]

so forget vaping, thats untested and HAS to be bad stuff right ? lets just sit back and have a FDA tested, legitimatly sourced ingrediant regular run of the mill beer, oh, hang on a min . . . . .

foodbabe.com/2013/07/17/the-shocking-ingredients-in-beer/

[andy01424]

Oct 5, 2013 13:37:23 GMT samheart said:

Thanks peeps!

Just the answers i was looking for!... andy01424 i'm not entirely sure what your saying there but sounds like a joke thats flown over my head...

I'm personally vaping in the UK and purely buy liquids produced in the UK as ive heard negative comments about juices produced else where e.g china as they add additional chemicals in the mix, any thoughts or experience on the matter?

Cheers!

only negative part,well on vape stand have different vape equipment,negative bit is deciding which to use and who gets left on the stand lol apart from that only reall negative would be the EU,who talk a load of bollox as far as i am concerned leave the vaping community alone

[carl]

Hi samheart and welcome. Only positive things all the way for me. My health has improved in lots of ways, especially my chest. I can now run up stairs and not be out of breath and walk much more than I have for many years. My smell and taste are back. Nothing in this world is 100% safe, you could choke to death eating a sweet! I live in London and am sure my Vape is less harmful for me than the filthy polluted air I have to breath every day. I have, and do use juice from China and have never had a problem with them, but I stick to well known and respected brands.  

[alansi]

By study of Igor Burstyn, PhD are safer than we think:

publichealth.drexel.edu/SiteData/docs/ms08/f90349264250e603/ms08.pdf

[dpax]

All,

Apologies in advance for what is no doubt something of a spammy first post.  I've been doing a fair bit of research into the safety of electronic cigarettes - because a lot of people are asking the question.  The main studies (Burstyn, Etter, Laugesen, the FDA study, the Greek study) are no doubt well known to regular forum participants, but perhaps not to new or potential users.

The prevailing scientific opinion is that they are safe, certainly relative to regular cigarettes, but that there's further long term research needed into usage patterns, impact of long term inhalation of propylene glycol and other solution ingredients on the lungs, etc.  I also feel that there are other risks which need to be taken account of (e.g. children's access to liquids / juice for refillable cartridges, etc).

I've written up what I've found so far on ecigarettesafetyquestions.com, which is meant to provide a wholly independent and unbiased view - see the disclaimer below.

Apologies if this is considered spam - I do intend to hang about and answer other questions if I can!

Honest Disclaimer!

My primary reason for participating in this forum is to promote the site ecigarettesafetyquestions.com. 

I've got no agenda - I'm not trying to sell or promote e-cgarettes, and I'm not trying to dissuade people from using them. 

Lots of people seem to be asking "Are electronic cigarettes safe?" or "Are e-cigarettes bad for you?". It it seemed that there was a good opportunity to have a clear and unbiased summary of all the relevant information in one place, rather than having to trawl forums or be swayed by pro or anti articles.  I'm still populating with the base content at the moment (as of October 2013), but if there's an audience for this information, I'll continue to build it into a great source of neutral information.

For what it's worth - my own opinion from reading the scientific evidence available to date is that there are still some risks which need long term research, but there's no clear evidence that electronic cigarettes pose a long term health risk, and they are certainly safer in the shorter term than cigarettes.

[Blownupdolly]

Oh dear. I better own up and admit I have four different usernames on four different forums.

Sorry!

[nikbud]

Oct 8, 2013 9:54:25 GMT dpax said:

All,

Apologies in advance for what is no doubt something of a spammy first post.  I've been doing a fair bit of research into the safety of electronic cigarettes - because a lot of people are asking the question.  The main studies (Burstyn, Etter, Laugesen, the FDA study, the Greek study) are no doubt well known to regular forum participants, but perhaps not to new or potential users.

The prevailing scientific opinion is that they are safe, certainly relative to regular cigarettes, but that there's further long term research needed into usage patterns, impact of long term inhalation of propylene glycol and other solution ingredients on the lungs, etc.  I also feel that there are other risks which need to be taken account of (e.g. children's access to liquids / juice for refillable cartridges, etc).

I've written up what I've found so far on ecigarettesafetyquestions.com, which is meant to provide a wholly independent and unbiased view - see the disclaimer below.

Apologies if this is considered spam - I do intend to hang about and answer other questions if I can!

Honest Disclaimer!

My primary reason for participating in this forum is to promote the site ecigarettesafetyquestions.com. 

I've got no agenda - I'm not trying to sell or promote e-cgarettes, and I'm not trying to dissuade people from using them. 

Lots of people seem to be asking "Are electronic cigarettes safe?" or "Are e-cigarettes bad for you?". It it seemed that there was a good opportunity to have a clear and unbiased summary of all the relevant information in one place, rather than having to trawl forums or be swayed by pro or anti articles.  I'm still populating with the base content at the moment (as of October 2013), but if there's an audience for this information, I'll continue to build it into a great source of neutral information.

For what it's worth - my own opinion from reading the scientific evidence available to date is that there are still some risks which need long term research, but there's no clear evidence that electronic cigarettes pose a long term health risk, and they are certainly safer in the shorter term than cigarettes.

Hi dpax,

Had a quick scan of your articles, some interesting reading.

I think it would be useful for you to cite all the web pages, articles etc. that you have used in your research. It's not that I don't trust you,or what you have written, but in these "early" days of vaping research, many pieces of evidence can become obselete and incorrect almost as soon as they are published and in doing so you would create a more valid discussion on your pages.

[dpax]

Oct 9, 2013 22:56:53 GMT nikbud said:

I think it would be useful for you to cite all the web pages, articles etc. that you have used in your research. It's not that I don't trust you,or what you have written, but in these "early" days of vaping research, many pieces of evidence can become obselete and incorrect almost as soon as they are published and in doing so you would create a more valid discussion on your pages.

Thanks Nikbud - I appreciate the feedback, and it's certainly something that I plan to include ASAP.  Unfortunately it's been a few years now since my last lot of academic writing, and I got out of the habit of footnoting as I went!