Recomend me a computer

[hiddenusername]

apple will never be the cheapest, thats part of their USP

but when you get one, and then realise what it is all about, you add things up and they turn out better value than even apple themselves would have you believe.

never said you cant have a opinion, I just said it might be foolish to follow the opinion of the guy who "thinks" incorrect things

[Bluefish]

your post had me off back looking at the imacs hiddenusername and although I like the look of them I know nowt about them, like why do they not have a dvd drive, would I have to change my email account and can you do the same on them as you can with non Apple pc? I do agree though with your point that they do hold some or most of their value. They do look good though, and that's probably why most people buy them, and then you have to figure out how to do what you want to do, especially seeing as I/we don't have any other Apple devices

[hiddenusername]

you can run windows on a mac if you want, it will boot up same as a windows computer

www.apple.com/support/bootcamp/

but I think the best thing about them is the mac OSX operating system.

you wont have to change your email, I have not found anything a microsoft computer can do that a mac cannot do.

the only pain is that if you have bought a load of expensive software for microsoft it wont run on OSX, but this is not a problem if you use boot camp.

[hiddenusername]

if you want a dvd drive (I have and have never used it) you can buy the external one they make.

[Bluefish]

Was thinking myself how often do I use the dvd drive, hardly ever to never is the answer, but I'm being told by the Mrs that she thinks going Apple will cause problems with what Apple will let you do, as we all know you have to do things their way, cos as you say I don't see the point in having an imac and putting windows on it? Anyhow i shall deliberate for a while before making my rash decision lol

[hiddenusername]

Oct 26, 2013 17:18:37 GMT Bluefish said:

I'm being told by the Mrs that she thinks going Apple will cause problems with what Apple will let you do, as we all know you have to do things their way,

ok, well it would appear "thinking" is the problem here.

I hope you enjoy whatever you chose to purchase.

thanks

Gary

[jordan]

How tech savvy are you bluefish? Because it is a hell of a lot cheaper to build your own and it's not that hard to do. there are plenty of youtube guides as to which wires go where. The hardest part of building your own is making sure that your motherboard is connected to the front panel of your case and thats where the videos/guides come in handy. A lot of the pc's you see in pc world at around the £1000 pricemark can be built at home for around £500

[Bluefish]

I could probably build one jordan it's not so much the building, it's the knowing what to get and where from that's a problem, besides i'm thinking it's going to be an all in one that I go for.

[djs]

Bluefish...

You could do what I do and get a barebone or prebuilt system and upgrade it to your specification.

Obviously, I don't use apple at home (not at that price) but I do at work.

I buy systems without the "Windows" pre-installed. Too many systems rely on the operating system backed up in the hard drive these days, which is kind of illogical, as hard drive failure is common.

Last PC I built before the current one (it was windows XP) suffered a hard drive failure. No panic, as I had the disk.
Last laptop I owned had a hard drive failure, so I could't do a thing.

I use ebuyer or scan.

[jordan]

Oct 26, 2013 18:10:24 GMT Bluefish said:

I could probably build one jordan it's not so much the building, it's the knowing what to get and where from that's a problem, besides i'm thinking it's going to be an all in one that I go for.

All in one systems are harder to sort out if something goes wrong. uk.pcpartpicker.com/parts/partlist/< this website lets you pick the parts you want and searches the internet for the cheapest supplier in the uk. It also runs a compatibility check to make sure the parts you order will work together. Obviously it's your money and as such your decision but personally I wouldn't get an all in one system.

[Bluefish]

Was waiting for the first, don't get an all in one comment lol jordan However on my internet travels I came across this/these and may give them a ring,

one of these with a bit of customisation and a screen= awesome www.vibox.co.uk/home-family-pcs/bestsellers/vibox-gamer

[Bluefish]

djs, I'm guessing win 7 is the way to go on a non touch screen? having used vista for the last four years I'm outa the loop, not that I was ever in it

[jordan]

Oct 26, 2013 20:32:46 GMT Bluefish said:

Was waiting for the first, don't get an all in one comment lol jordan However on my internet travels I came across this/these and may give them a ring,

one of these with a bit of customisation and a screen= awesome www.vibox.co.uk/home-family-pcs/bestsellers/vibox-gamer

You know what that's actually not a bad price for what it is. uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/1TwCf only £100 more expensive than building it yourself (possibly less when you take into account shipping costs are only estimated on part picker) The graphics card is a bit dated but if you aren't bothered about playing games it's not an issue. If you want to game on it properly all you need is a gtx670 and you will be set for at least 3 years. It's a bit more expensive than the 650 but it has come down in price since the 7xx series came out. 

[Mev]

It's ok using the price of Office as an advantage of owning a Mac but there's plenty of free offerings such as Open office too on windows. Mac use great hardware I will give them that but no better than you can buy to use Windows on if you want to, infact for the same money you'd probably build a better pc hardware wise if you built your own. I detest their practices and policies though, just the point they want everything run in house so you're tied to them no matter what means I will never own an Apple device again. It's pointless arguing who's is the better software between Windows and Mac OS's as they both just use everybody elses code/software these days including each others and claim it their own, buy up the real developers ideas and say they are ingenious ground breakers lol. not too far in the future you won't be able to tell the difference between them other than logos.

[djs]

Oct 26, 2013 20:38:53 GMT Bluefish said:

djs, I'm guessing win 7 is the way to go on a non touch screen? having used vista for the last four years I'm outa the loop, not that I was ever in it

How easy is it to buy? (Easy, is probably the answer if you buy the DVD).

I have no experience of Windows 8, but presumably most PCs come with 8.

I'm not into touch screen for desktop work, when I built (not from total scratch) my PC 18 months ago, I opted for a nice IPS screen and wireless keyboard/mouse. Things move ever so fast though.

I bought a very, very dull box for £249, added a nice graphics card and an SSD. The O.S. runs off the SSD, so do games files and a few other things. The documents/photos live on the hard drive that came with the computer.

PC (Asus based) £249
Graphics card £90 (?)
IPS 23" monitor £120
SSD - £90
Windows 7 - £69 (?)

The thing is, it doesn't get used that much, so I wanted to have something with speed (booting up and getting going) over almost anything else.
RAM and CPU are secondary..... I use windows 7 32-bit, so 4gb is overkill. It flies.