AAEC would be banned if new EU law is approved as from 2016.

[tracerace1]

done
this is my letter to my mp, if it helps as a guideline to others.......but it does state any copied and pasted letters, WILL NOT be accepted.

Dear Stuart Cross,

I am writing to ask that you act on behalf of all e cigarette users, in opposing the EU commission's plans, to bypass the EU parliaments decision[ i.e. not to regulate egigs and juices] to enforce strict regulations or banning e cigarettes and the selling of them!
we are a user of ecig's [vaping as we call it] and it has been invaluable to me and my husband; we have just completed our first year of being NON SMOKERS [of tobacco that is!]
After both smoking for more than thirty years, and trying all normal nrt products,to try and stop smoking, this is the first and only thing that helped us we are over the moon with ourselves, as you can imagine,
As big UKIP supporters too, we are asking you to represent the British people, us being in that category, against these secretive talks going on by EU commissioners, without any proper studies on how beneficial vaping is to a lot of people.
We as British Citizens seem to have no say on anything any more, and I'm asking you to put forwards the need to still have a life! Please.
Governments of the world slowly got there way and banned smoking in public places, in their words...To save peoples Lives!
Then when the people listen and find their own way to cope/quit......that's not good enough for them.....too many people like this mmmmh vaping!!!!! I know they say we'll regulate them ecigs too...or maybe even Ban them Too!
Please pass this letter on to the appropriate departments and help our little vaping community to keep on vaping, We are all capable of living our OWN lives and making our OWN decisions we DO NOT NEED the EU TO DO IT FOR US!!!!
Thanking you for your time in reading this.

[kibbster]

Nov 26, 2013 11:36:37 GMT Village idiot formerly tjlumle said:

Nov 26, 2013 11:24:28 GMT toots said:

I've never heard of anything so ridiculous. We can't even talk about vaping What happened to 'freedom of speech' ??? We're supposed to be living in a democratic and free society. Who are they to tell anyone what we can or can't talk about. That is just going above and beyond. Surely that wouldn't be passed.

They'd be segregating everyone, so that we could not form any type of group to go against them in the future. Smells of dictatorship, nah, stinks of dictatorship

Soon we will not be allowed to read books or look at art or listen to music we will become an equilibrium state.

I wouldn't mind if I could be a Cleric!

[Deleted]

just about to send to MP

will do the rest later


I am writing to you because I have grave concerns as I have just heard of the EU commission's plans to ban e-cigarettes, bypassing the decision by the EU parliament to not ban them or regulate them in the foreseeable future.

E-cigarettes are being treated like they are as bad as cigarettes yet the evidence is to the contrary. At one time I could vape (use my e-cig) in many places...indoors and out depending on my choice. Now, due to successful scaremongering tactics by the lobbyists of pharmaceutical companies that choice is being eroded.

I know your party's line on this which just kow tow's to the Big Pharma but I am asking you personally to write to Jane Ellison MP, Minister for Public Health and possibly also the EU scrutiny committee to represent me. I care about my health. I find nicotine helps my psychiatric condition. NRT from the doctor just makes me hear voices and end up in RCH after a few hours.

Yes, maybe there does need to be clearer labeling on e-cig products and maybe stricter legislation to make sure they are not sold to children but even so. I am an adult and right now actually quite well. I've not had a chest infection in 2 years thanks to my vaping. Finally after years of the anti smoking brigade making smokers lepers we have found something that enables us to do what no amount of pressurizing from ASH (or any other anti smoking brigade organization) could do for us and now it seems they want to take it away from us

This will affect my vote in the next election and no, as a committed Presbyterian I shall not be voting for independance

I look forward to hearing from you

[Deleted]

Orwell's 1984 is finally becoming reality in the UK 30 years after he envisioned it ... a sad, bleak grey future for the citizens where we have zero personal freedom and Big Brother dictates every aspect of how we behave. But fear not peeps, such oppressive systems have been imposed in the past (Hitler's 3rd Reich, communist East Germany and the USSR for example) and the common man has always won in the end .... Viva la Vaping revolucion!

[ukipper]

Call me cynical but taking on the establishment is a waste of time, they have made up their minds and it will happen.
You get what you vote for unfortunately, and as long as people keep voting for the same people, and they are the same no matter what party they say they represent.

I wouldn't like to say what I think of politicians but come the May elections next year, you could see the end of the establishment as we know it.
The trouble is, will people wake up ? I don't think so !!


This is not a party political broadcast on behalf of UKIP

[barrynorton]

Nov 30, 2013 16:16:41 GMT ukipper said:

Call me cynical but taking on the establishment is a waste of time

Sorry to say it, but I really resent the 'us and them' attitude on these boards sometimes.

First the assumption that we're all excluded, second the implication that this mainly Labour Party-led opposition to e-cigarettes somehow represents the establishment (though I am saddened by the stance the BMA have taken).

[djs]

Nov 30, 2013 16:16:41 GMT ukipper said:

Call me cynical but taking on the establishment is a waste of time, they have made up their minds and it will happen.

Surely you are wrong?

Many of the MEPs that threw out the medicines vote were only made aware of e-cigs by their constituents.

If they hadn't listened to letters and emails and face-to-face discussions, they would have only had the impression that e-cigs needed regulation (from a medical point of view) and voted that way.

[kailey]

I have already seen my MEPs and MPs change their view in the short time I have been involved. Many of them knew nothing about vaping but they became more aware of what it meant. It really is worth contacting your MEPs and MPs. The alternative is to do nothing and then nothing will change. Decisions will be made in ignorance and they will not be what is best for health.

[yesitsme]

The government get far, far more in tobacco tax then is spent by the NHS on smoking related ailments. They will never admit this but NHS spending is always in the news. Look at how many people in Britain smoke and the tax on cigarettes/tobacco and do the math. In Belgium you can buy 50g Golden Virginia for a few quid, around £15 in Britain. If you never expect politicians to be telling the truth you won't go far wrong. They see vaping as a danger to taxes so they probably feel they have to ban it or tax it to the same level as tobacco.

[djs]

Nov 30, 2013 21:51:04 GMT yesitsme said:

They see vaping as a danger to taxes so they probably feel they have to ban it or tax it to the same level as tobacco.

They certainly do, I agree.

What scares the hell out of me is that one day someone might say "ooh, a Nicolite/E-Lites/Skycig refill is 1-2 packs of cigarettes....that should be at least £5 per cartomizer in tax to match cigarettes"

I've heard vendors tell newbies that 10ml of e-liquid can do 100s cigarettes-worth of vaping. This would justify a 100% tax on e-liquid, making a £5 bottle £10 after tax.

[Deleted]

Hence I'm trying to get off nicotine before anything happens (the stuff is in blogs)....I know it will affect future vapers potentially but we are the lucky ones. We have discovered e-cigs before regulation and with that on our heels we should make every attempt to get to vaping 0 nicotine before anything happens

Sock that MR!!!

[Deleted]

Dec 2, 2013 11:37:52 GMT @johanino said:

Hence I'm trying to get off nicotine before anything happens (the stuff is in blogs)....I know it will affect future vapers potentially but we are the lucky ones. We have discovered e-cigs before regulation and with that on our heels we should make every attempt to get to vaping 0 nicotine before anything happens

Sock that MR!!!

I hear what you say Jane but to me, and many others, vaping is more than just a means to feed the nicotine demon   ... There are a lot of vapers who vape zero nicotine eliquid as can be witnessed by the amount of zero nic "shisha" liquid that is sold.

[Deleted]

Didn't know 'shisha' liquid was zero nic...wow you learn something every day...

Yeah fair point @freefromsmoking...I hope to be vaping 0 nic one day but still......I haven't really thought about it to be honest

[kailey]

When I tried my first e-cig I never wanted to stop smoking. I was just curious about them. However, I discovered that I preferred e-cigarettes for many reasons including them being a much safer alternative. Stopping vaping is not an option for me although I am now over the cigarette addition. DH mentioned to me yesterday that I was vaping less so maybe it will be a normal transition to eventually stop vaping as I do not think I am as addicted to nicotine as I was to cigarettes. However, if forced to quit then it will not happen for me and I can see I will be back on the fags. Therefore, the only option for me right now is to fight this ridiculous situation.