Battery Question

[delvap]

HI Guys

Having asked about a cheap spare device, I have decided to buy myself a nice shiney tube mod for Christmas probably an SVD

I need to know, however, what are the best Batteries/ chargers, and what's the difference between unprotected and protected? and what do I want?

also, should I get flat tops or the ones with the raised nipples? 

[ryuzaki911]

You want unprotected batteries for sure and better to pay a little bit extra for some beast batteries than scrimp on something that'll "just" see you through. shmovapes.co.uk/13-batteries- either MNKE which I use and are awesome or Sony 30amps are really good and for 8 quid you can't go wrong although they're out of stock at the moment. I think even if you are not sub-ohming you might as well have the option. Always use ohms law to check you don't over drain the amp rating of your battery and stick within 80% of your batteries capabilities! Hope that helps let me know if you need to know anything else, battery safety is my no1 concern for vapers out there!

Sorry,thought you meant a mech ><

[Brambles]

Sorry but this is bad advice above. High amp batteries are dangerous should they ever get shorted by accident and these high amp batteries mentioned are not very high capacity.
Stick to Panasonic, Sanyo, Samsung or similar quality batteries.
Such as Panasonic
CGR18650CG . 2250 mAh.
NCR18650PD . 2900
NCR18650A ... 3100
NCR18650B ... 3400

Samsung
ICR1865026F . 2600
ICR1865028A.. 2800
ICR1865030B.. 3000

Sanyo
UR18650A...... 2250
UR18650FM ... 2600

Torchy on ebay only sells good quality batteries and knows his stuff. link

You are best getting flat top and unprotected. You can get get unprotected raised button tops but these are specially made for lamps which are made not to connect to a flat tp and reqire a button top protected. Some applications it is desireable to use uprotected so the lamp dims rather than jut switching off as the battery drains..say for emergency lamps. For ecigs its not applicable so use flat tops. In a mechanical mod you need protected and may need button tops. Electronic mods like the SVD all have low voltage cut off built in.

I suggest the Panasonic 3400mAh for best capacity, the Sanyo UR...FM 2600mAh for good capacity and reasonable value, and the Panasonic CGR...CG 2250mAh for best value per usable mAh but not the highest capacity. Of course a lot depends how much you can get them for from a vendor. Efest are also very popular if looking for protected batteies to use in a mechanical mod ( No electronic protection).

I am sure others will offer good advice as well further to what I have said, but I do not agree with using 30 Amp batteries, they are very specialised and way too much an overkill for normal ecig use. The panasonic CGR18650CG for example is limited to about 4.7 amps and is extremely safe with its inbuilt protection should it ever be short circuited by accident.

[giles]

Brambles advice seems sensible to me, at least for electronic mods such as the SVD (batteries for mechanical mods are a different ball game). Efest (which are, I think, rebranded Panasonic) are also usually reckoned good.

The difference between protected and unprotected is that protected ones contain circuitry which prevent overcharging and overheating, and thus reduce the chance of the battery exploding. Mods such as the SVD contain the circuitry themselves, so having it in the battery as well is unnecessary and may work badly with the circuits in the mod.

I hadn't heard Brambles' explanation of why some batteries have flat tops and some nipples. Interesting. Anyway, in practice what matters is what fits in your mod, which seems to be either flat-top or both, so you'd get flat top anyway.

There is a good case for getting your batteries from the UK (there are postage issues) and Torchy tends to be cheaper than the vape shops.

[giles]

You need a good charger (there's some real sh*t out there) but there's no particular reason to buy that from the UK. Last time I looked the best buy was the nitecore intellicharger from fasttech, which will also charge Ni-MH AA batteries. I got the 2 bay, but 4 bay is also available.

[Perpetua]

I use AW's or Efest's for everything as I can't be doing with having a variety of batteries floating around. Torchy is an excellent source as are known authorized re-sellers, there are fakes out there:

www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Li-Ion-Batteries/Efest-IMR-Batteries.html

www.vapeescape.co.uk/Vaping-Spares/Li-Ion-Batteries/AW-IMR-Batteries.html

As Giles says, a good charger is as important as good batteries:

www.fasttech.com/search?nitecore%20charger

[Carpe Vapor]

+1 for AW IMR's

[tokari]

+1 for Torchy's batteries. I've just got and SVD and use his 18650s and 18350 with a Nitecore i4 charger.

[geordie]

I use Efest from myepack. Its very important to get batteries from a reputable source as there are a lot of fakes out there.

[ryuzaki911]

sorry I thought he meant a mechanical mod.

[Brambles]

Dec 2, 2013 23:40:06 GMT ryuzaki911 said:

You want unprotected batteries for sure and better to pay a little bit extra for some beast batteries than scrimp on something that'll "just" see you through. shmovapes.co.uk/13-batteries- either MNKE which I use and are awesome or Sony 30amps are really good and for 8 quid you can't go wrong although they're out of stock at the moment. I think even if you are not sub-ohming you might as well have the option. Always use ohms law to check you don't over drain the amp rating of your battery and stick within 80% of your batteries capabilities! Hope that helps let me know if you need to know anything else, battery safety is my no1 concern for vapers out there!

Sorry,thought you meant a mech ><

Re scoring out your post.

Dec 2, 2013 23:40:06 GMT ryuzaki911 said:

You want unprotected batteries for sure and better to pay a little bit extra for some good batteries beast batteries than scrimp on something that'll "just" see you through. shmovapes.co.uk/13-batteries- either MNKE which I use and are awesome or Sony 30amps are really good and for 8 quid you can't go wrong although they're out of stock at the moment. I think even if you are not sub-ohming you might as well have the option. Always use ohms law to check you don't over drain the amp rating of your battery and stick within 80% of your batteries capabilities! Hope that helps let me know if you need to know anything else, battery safety is my no1 concern for vapers out there!

Sorry,thought you meant a mech ><

Just pointing out it is not all wrong in you post...the jist was there. Just got a couple of points reversed in your head when replying....I think. Easy done, and don't worry about it, its how we all learn. Expect I am digging a hole here for myself!!

[Deleted]

I use IMR batteries (AW, Efest or Torchy) for both regulated and mechanical mods ... you can't go wrong with them IMO

If you don't use IMR batteries, be sure to always use a protected l-ion battery in a mechanical mod.

[delvap]

Thank you for all the replies very educational.


ryuzaki911 your point about applying ohms law to keep a check you are not going to over drain the battery, has me a bit concerned. How do I do that? What should I do please?

[Deleted]

Ryuzaki911 appears to offline atm so I will try to answer your question delvap

With a regulated mod (svd, vamo, evic,sid etc) you don't have to worry about this as the electronics in the mod will switch the battery off when the voltage drops too low to avoid over draining the battery.

With a mechanical mod without the electronics you have to make sure that the battery does not over drain. Lets say you are using a 2.0 ohm atty at 4 volts. Using ohms law, the current drain on the battery will be 4/2 = 2 amps. If on the other hand you were using a 1 ohm atty at 5 volts, the current drain will be 5/1 = 5 amps which will drain your battery two and a half times faster than the first set up. You therefore have to be aware how fast your chosen atty resistance and the voltage you are vaping at will deplete your battery and change your battery before the output reaches about 3 volts. Experience with a regulated mod will let you know how fast a battery will reach a low level with a chosen set up and I would advise getting a bit of experience with a regulated mod before venturing into mechanical mods.

I hope this helps explain things and sorry if I'm stepping on anyone's toes

[delvap]

No Problem @freefromsmoking Thank you.

its something I hadn't heard of before and it sounded dangerous.

Anyway just bought this:

myepack.co.uk/itaste-svd.html

these:

www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B008D23C34/

and one of these

myepack.co.uk/batteries/nitecore-i2-intelligent-charger.html