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Post by ragjoy on Apr 11, 2010 22:34:34 GMT
occasionally i do a burn off on the atty,ive noticed that one side starts to fail quicker than the other. im wondering if this problem could be made worse by the end cap. the reason i say this is i always have the string hanging from the lowest point and line up the cart to that,this means the juice is always working harder either at the top or the bottom (not sure which,but assume its the top burner)therefore the top burner is burning dryer all the time. your thoughts please. having re-read that it probably make no sense at all,but by now youve already read it ragjoy.............
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Post by keef on Apr 11, 2010 23:33:34 GMT
You are correct It makes absolutely no sense to me
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Post by ragjoy on Apr 11, 2010 23:43:23 GMT
i will try to put it in easier terms if the atty is in the same position all the time rather than turned when used,could this knacker the atty quicker. ragjoy............
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Post by Scylla on Apr 12, 2010 0:28:04 GMT
I expect I'm completely barking up the wrong tree here (or just barking ) but could you vary the "angle" of the atty by adjusting the mouthpiece? Assuming you're using whistle-type mouthpieces, not totally round ones. But I really don't know about wear & tear on the atty one side more than another, I haven't noticed it on mine and I do quite frequently give them a burn and peer inside to see the glow. scylla
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 12, 2010 8:40:30 GMT
Lol Raggy, it was this bit that confused me the most " i always have the string hanging from the lowest point" I was actually going to say the same as Scylla re rotating the mouthpiece.
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Post by ragjoy on Apr 12, 2010 10:36:02 GMT
rotating the cart is what im now doing so the string is at different angles now after every refill,but the easiest and most comfy is to have the string off the bottom of the SD,i was just wondering if this could cause atty damage or even effect the vapor you get from the SD. people with no end cap would change tHE angle every time they refilled with fluid,me on the other hand with a end cap with the string directly off the bottom i would be using the atty in exactly the same way every time. the liquid excess would always be on the low point of the atty and never get a variation. same would apply to the neck or wrist strings,hanging down it dont get in the way,but the atty low point will always be the same. PHEW......... ragjoy
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 12, 2010 11:02:26 GMT
Ah THAT string! I forgot you had the SD MK11 & I obviously didn't read the thread title properly
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Post by keef on Apr 12, 2010 17:53:07 GMT
Clear as mud now I dont think it will make much difference which way you hold it. I have seen people say that if you have the whistle tip carts to put them in rounded ends accross the bridge but I never bother to look, as long as the filling is kept moist I get good vapour. I should also say I dont do dry burn offs ever . If i need to test it then I press till it goes red and stop immediately.
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Post by foxy9212 on Apr 14, 2010 13:14:23 GMT
Keef; with the greatest respect, I don't have a clue what you mean. What difference could the end cap have on the atty? I didn't realize they had 'sides' coz they're round?? ??? Do you mean the cord that attaches the end cap to the SD body? I just screw in the atty, ram on the cart and puff away merrily. As soon as I feel that 'burn,' I top off the cart again (the SD is a thirsty little beastie). I guess that vaping at higher voltages burns out atties quicker than at the lower but, even then, I can't be sure as I've not noticed a difference. If I'm barking up the wrong tree entirely, please put me straight! Fox
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Post by ragjoy on Apr 14, 2010 16:44:44 GMT
i will try to explain again. if you have a neck,wrist or button lanyard attached to the sd,the point where you connect this is at the 2 little holes. when i use mine i have the 2 holes pointing towards the floor,this way the string hangs down and out of the way,i then line up the cart so it keeps the 2 hole facing the floor. what i was asking is if i use it this way all the time could this burn out the atty quicker because it will always be the in the same position,and will always be wetter at the point nearest the floor,therefore will burn or wear unevenly. if you had no lanyard connected as i do with my mk1 you then smoke it wherever the cart has been placed,in turn the atty would be randomly in different positions as you are not lining the cart to one position. i now just put the cart in and if the holes are too the left or right then so be it,it is i find not as comfortable to use the sd with the string pointing left right or upwards as it gets in the way. ragjoy
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Post by lynwlt on Apr 14, 2010 18:08:02 GMT
Ragjoy, For the life of me I can't quite get what you are talking about....lol Maybe you could post a picture? (I know I couldn't but that's because I am thick..)Where does the lanyard connect on the mk2 as opposed to the mk1? Lynda.
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Post by keef on Apr 14, 2010 18:59:50 GMT
I get what Ragjoy means.
When vaping the SD they are holding it in exactly the same position every time - thus the atomiser is always lying at the same angle.
There for the liquid in the atomiser pot will pool at the exact same point every time they use it.
The question is in doing that will there be a build up of more gunk in one spot on the coil and will the atomiser die quicker .
My answer : I dont have a clue.
Wait see how long your atty lasts and try judge roughly how much liquid you vaped in it.
If its over 40ml then you are not putting any undue strain on it.
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Post by keef on Apr 14, 2010 19:10:54 GMT
Foxy I was meaning the Cart .... the brown one at the top ..... Some people line up the rounded ends with the ends of the bridge they think it gives better vapour that way . That means every time you top off you have to place the cart at just the right place .
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Post by Chrissie on Apr 14, 2010 19:48:59 GMT
I also eventually understood what you where saying Raggy & same as Keef - I don't have a clue! The only solution I can come up with that may help is to keep rotating your mouth piece. Just a thought though, have you tried asking in the TW forum? I still mainly use my GG Grant & the button on that can be fired in so many different positions (sort of depends on my mood how I'm holding it ). But as I can be prone to being a tad OCD, (not saying you are - far from it) I know for a fact that if I had an SD MK11 I think I would also want the string & the cap hanging down
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Post by ragjoy on Apr 14, 2010 21:31:28 GMT
I get what Ragjoy means. When vaping the SD they are holding it in exactly the same position every time - thus the atomiser is always lying at the same angle. There for the liquid in the atomiser pot will pool at the exact same point every time they use it. The question is in doing that will there be a build up of more gunk in one spot on the coil and will the atomiser die quicker . My answer : I dont have a clue. Wait see how long your atty lasts and try judge roughly how much liquid you vaped in it. If its over 40ml then you are not putting any undue strain on it. I also eventually understood what you where saying Raggy & same as Keef - I don't have a clue! The only solution I can come up with that may help is to keep rotating your mouth piece. Just a thought though, have you tried asking in the TW forum? I still mainly use my GG Grant & the button on that can be fired in so many different positions (sort of depends on my mood how I'm holding it ). But as I can be prone to being a tad OCD, (not saying you are - far from it) I know for a fact that if I had an SD MK11 I think I would also want the string & the cap hanging down at least i got there in the end. i also think maybe it extends the life of the attie as the wick is always draining off to the same spot,therefore not keeping the wick overly wet all round. so really it was a pointless question that took forever to get across i didnt want to ask on a more serious forum as i might have got a too serious answer. ragjoy..........
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