Hi guys! I'm mended but my e cigs died!!!

[foxy9212]

I've recently bought two new 901 atties from Vapor Station and George and two 510s from George (plus batteries) - of the six, five are fine but one is, as you say Raggy, like sucking a golf ball up a straw. The 901 batteries are the same length as always but the 510s are a fraction longer and seem more weighty.

It seems to me someone down the line has decided to introduce 'new, improved' versions that have c*cked everything up right royally but no answers seem to be forthcoming.

The new 901 atties all seem to have the RN-type bridge that doesn't wick with the old DSE901 carts or the RN ones - at least not properly - neither do the thick whistle type mouthpieces fit properly. One of my 901 atties had the protective cart stuck on so tight I had to take a pair of pliers to it and crack it off!!

I prefer the round type mouthpieces but the ones I have don't fit my new atties - too loose for the 510s and too tight for the 901s.

George's filled carts used to be interchangeable but now they are the thicker style 901 and won't fit the 510s. (The flavour too has changed - much too sweet and cloying; the old ones were my favourite tobacco flavour. ).

Fox

[Scylla]

Apr 22, 2010 12:54:11 GMT @foxy9212 said:

am producing enough vapour to ground airlines!

That is just toooo good, Foxy

scylla

[buckowski]

Apr 21, 2010 23:41:01 GMT Lilac said:

just need an adapter so i can use my 901 atties with it.

Just to throw a spanner in the works Lilac...

I've been trying out my adapter on the Tornado to see what the 901 atties are like and...its not very good.

The same atty in my SD2 has a mild throat hit and lots of vapour, on the tornado it's a zero throat hit and half as much vapour.

One up for the SD lol.

Mind, for 4 days now, all of my SD's have been working well, I think I'll get some extra lottery numbers this week.

[ragjoy]

i just had this reply from trog on his forum,i dont think he will mind me using it.

i think as a general rule people are flooding atomizers..

one drop too many ether straight into the atomizer or a puddled cart top up can flood them.. once flooded they wimp along and then get flooded again with the next top up..

the ones with what appears to be a steel washer in them are DSE 901 types.. these do push the filler up more but this should not matter unless the cart is then used in an RN atomizer with a flatter bridge.. the flatter bridge then dosnt touch the pushed up wool..

basically all the cart does is keep the wire wool around the atomizer wet-ish..

i am hearing a few comments like this one and it just has to be too much liquid in the system..

basically good results should be obtained without a cart.. all the cart should do is keep the good results going longer before the next "attention"..

one drop too many will flood the system.. the natural tendency for people to think add some more liquid if things are not going well makes things worse..

get it all working without the cart.. then simply add the not overly wet cart and it should all keep going.. do not add more fluid..

all that should need doing is.. keep the cart topped up after so many puffs.. we are talking say twenty to thirty puffs before this should need doing.. fluval is hit and miss... its nearly all holes and the fluid runs out too easily and floods the atomizer..

people think this is a wicking problem.. it isnt its a too much fluid flooded atomizer problem..

take one correctly primed atomizer.. insert one pre-filled cart.. puff away and get vapour..

chuck a few extra drops in to make sure and it wont work... i am pretty sure this is exactly what some folks are doing..


trog

which does all make sense,if im having problem and i do burn off things do improve a fair bit.
maybe these are just that bit more susceptible to flooding.
well its not cured the problem but at least i now know why its happening.
i have reduced the height of the filler in my cart by about 4mm,ive used it all afternoon and its been good,not bringing down planes (great line that foxy) but its good.
ragjoy..........

[foxy9212]

Thanks for posting that Raggy and here's hoping your elation remains! Do please let us know. I don't 'direct drip' at all but do prime a cleaned atty with just one or sometimes two drops. TW's customer services advised me that 'they don't recommend direct dripping' so I've avoided doing that. I do sometimes overfill my carts so I shall take care in future.

When using cartomizers I do often overfill them to the extent that the juice bubbles out of the atty end (not a problem according to one You Tube video on the subject). It's curious that these, presumably, cheap, throw-away atomizers don't mind being drowned.

Fox

[buckowski]

Apr 22, 2010 17:11:31 GMT buckowski said:

Apr 21, 2010 23:41:01 GMT Lilac said:

just need an adapter so i can use my 901 atties with it.

Just to throw a spanner in the works Lilac...

I've been trying out my adapter on the Tornado to see what the 901 atties are like and...its not very good.

The same atty in my SD2 has a mild throat hit and lots of vapour, on the tornado it's a zero throat hit and half as much vapour.

One up for the SD lol.

Mind, for 4 days now, all of my SD's have been working well, I think I'll get some extra lottery numbers this week.

Edit...like all things E-cigs, turns out my 901 atty was on its way out, 3 days wow a record lol. Swapped a new 901 in the Tornado with adapter, works champion. not as good as the SD2, but still perfectly good.

[Lilac]

Hi all

I've not thought about trying 510 atties on the SD Foxy, i've ordered a Tornado this afternoon, so i'll see how i like that first....my head is buzzing with all the diff types of atty, shielded and not...etc...lol

bit disappointing the news from Bucko that 901 atties aren't so good on the Tornado tho that would've been a good fix for all the 901's i have....

On a happy note, i got a visit this afternoon from a very nice man bearing sample bottles of juice.....yes, none other than our James

I'm not sure the Bavarian Cream is to my taste, altho it certainly improved the taste of a tobacco flavour that previously tasted disgusting... but the menthol is just heaven on a vapourcloud...i looooove it...

thank you James, and sorry for forgetting your name :-[ my mind goes blank at times when i'm surprised

on another happy note, my screwdriver has behaved itself for an hour now not sure why, altho i have been very careful to only top up with 3 drops a a time, altho i usually use a few more, after reading Raggy's post....so the SD doesn't like too much juice? it's not a prob for my 901 battery tho, when i've swopped over to that when the SD plays up, but if thats gonna improve the SD's performance, then i'll stick with it...

off to do some ironing, the pile is almost to the ceiling with all the faffing about i've been doing....

[Lilac]

Great Bucko, just read your edit...

more good news for me then...lol

[foxy9212]

I hope you'll be as pleased with your Tornado Lilac as I've been with mine. I've never tried it with a 901 atty as I consider it to be a souped-up 510. I reckon you'll love the feel of it, very tactile especially the sort of rubberised cone. Just take care not to store it anywhere (tight pockets) where the button could be pressed in accidentally as it's fairly 'easy.' I've not had a problem with it so far though and it goes everywhere with me; it's even survived bouncing along a tow path at a squillion miles an hour!!!

Fox

[Chrissie]

LOL, I'm now starting to lose the plot a bit here

I may be wrong but it looks to me like folks have had problems with their SD's whether they are using 901's, 4075's or as in Bucko's case 510's? So it does look like it's not the atties at fault? From my experience, more or less as Trog says the SD does not take being dripped/flooded atties. Over the last few days, I've found that even if the tiniest smidgen of juice gets on the the SD attie connector, performance drops off. So you do really need to wipe that connection on a regular basis.

Going back to some other points in this thread. here is a pic (camera not that good on macro mode) showing the difference between the 4075 & the new 901 attie. Out of interest Raggie, which ones have you got?



Lilac, that was very kind of James, LOL, think I would also be very surprised at him turning up on my doorstep though He sent me a couple of samples & I'm really liking his Lambert & Butler flavour

[Lilac]

Mine barely works with a 901 atty, Chrissie, the one on the right of your pic

works much better with the type on the left...

but, i've noticed the airhole and the hole on the batt end of the 901 atty is much bigger than on the RN4075, so if i partially cover the airhole with my finger, it's better.

[Lilac]

Thanks Foxy, hope i do like it....not sure what'll happen in June regarding replacement batteries for it tho, cos at £14.99 a pop, i'll not can afford to stock up with many of them

[Chrissie]

Lilac, if either you or anyone else isn't happy with the 901 atties I'm more than happy to buy them from you all as they work very well on my GG Grant & even better than any other attie on my Garry Dibley passthru.

[ragjoy]

Out of interest Raggie, which ones have you got?










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the ones on the right are what i got from trog,the ones on the left look the same as those from TW.
ragjoy......

[Chrissie]

That's interesting Raggy as according to Trog : -

"there are two types the DSE 901 and the RN4075 different factory versions of the same style atomizer..

we ship the RN so does TW/TECC even tho they get called the 901 mini... the ones that come on your MK11 SD will be an RN4075.. both types will fit.. we still like the RN but there isnt much difference in how they work..

trog"

The one on the left of my photo is the RN4075 & the one on the right, the DSE901.