Need some help from all the IT specialists.

[andy01424]

Jan 15, 2014 11:47:42 GMT Roscopecotrain said:

Right then i may go desktop through the tv then.

I have windows 7 32bit at home but guessing 64bit would be better?

Would it be possible on £400? Would leave me some pennies for keyboards etc then.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

bare in mind mine is mostly for gaming set up so graphic card spec can be lot lower so reflects price,just make sure it has a hdmi out port on card as well as dvi , you will have to upgrade the Os or getting any memory above 4g will be pointless,also it does depend on software if its only a 32 bit software it will only use the 32 bit system so restriction to 4gb max will apply ......as for keyboard and mouse you can get a set for less than £30

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLIMLINE-WIRELESS-KEYBOARD-AND-MOUSE-SET-PARADOX-III-with-mini-USB-receiver-/200951129828?pt=UK_Computing_Keyboard_Mouse_Bundles&hash=item2ec99ee6e4

unless you want multi button short cut keys etc
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gigabyte-KM7600-Deluxe-Multimedia-Wireless-Keyboard-and-Mouse-Set-/121223024869?pt=UK_Computing_Keyboard_Mouse_Bundles&hash=item1c397490e5


or you could go lol
me want keep hinting but got told no!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saitek-Cyborg-MMO-7-6400DPi-Gaming-Laser-Mouse-M-M-O-7-MMO7-WOW-MMORPG-/290913321455?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_JoysticksJoypadsGamepads&hash=item43bbc901ef

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Razer-BlackWidow-Ultimate-2013-Elite-Mechanical-With-Light-PC-Gaming-Keyboard-/151206786116?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item2334a07444

[GunJack]

yes, providing the pc has a hdmi output...how about something like this

www.ebuyer.com/579783-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1212 or

www.ebuyer.com/579784-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1213

add circa £80 for Win7, and you've got a very good bang-for-buck machine with hdmi port for around £320.... and good enough to play CoD:Ghosts* on

* got one of each for the Mini-Guns for xmas, both are very good value for money, and both play CoD:Ghosts well enough.

[Carpe Vapor]

Or this - without windows installed

www.novatech.co.uk/pc/range/novatechblacknta27.html

[andy01424]

what really cheeses me off is the prices in the USA-- no they wont deliver tried--- here is an i7 complete system
www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=8564594&CatId=333

ok need a graphic card to but using an exchange rate of $1.52 to 1GBP this works out at ! £374.35p

[Carpe Vapor]

Yah, same on newegg.com I think

Of course it would get caught in customs and probably end up dearer than over here if I were to manage to grab something

[Roscopecotrain]

Jan 15, 2014 12:06:09 GMT GunJack said:

yes, providing the pc has a hdmi output...how about something like this

www.ebuyer.com/579783-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1212 or

www.ebuyer.com/579784-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-1213

add circa £80 for Win7, and you've got a very good bang-for-buck machine with hdmi port for around £320.... and good enough to play CoD:Ghosts* on

* got one of each for the Mini-Guns for xmas, both are very good value for money, and both play CoD:Ghosts well enough.

I was just looking at these but slightly higher spec. I am so confused right now. Lol.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[Roscopecotrain]

Jan 15, 2014 12:06:07 GMT andy01424 said:

Jan 15, 2014 11:47:42 GMT Roscopecotrain said:

Right then i may go desktop through the tv then.

I have windows 7 32bit at home but guessing 64bit would be better?

Would it be possible on £400? Would leave me some pennies for keyboards etc then.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

bare in mind mine is mostly for gaming set up so graphic card spec can be lot lower so reflects price,just make sure it has a hdmi out port on card as well as dvi , you will have to upgrade the Os or getting any memory above 4g will be pointless,also it does depend on software if its only a 32 bit software it will only use the 32 bit system so restriction to 4gb max will apply ......as for keyboard and mouse you can get a set for less than £30

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/SLIMLINE-WIRELESS-KEYBOARD-AND-MOUSE-SET-PARADOX-III-with-mini-USB-receiver-/200951129828?pt=UK_Computing_Keyboard_Mouse_Bundles&hash=item2ec99ee6e4

unless you want multi button short cut keys etc
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Gigabyte-KM7600-Deluxe-Multimedia-Wireless-Keyboard-and-Mouse-Set-/121223024869?pt=UK_Computing_Keyboard_Mouse_Bundles&hash=item1c397490e5


or you could go lol
me want keep hinting but got told no!
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Saitek-Cyborg-MMO-7-6400DPi-Gaming-Laser-Mouse-M-M-O-7-MMO7-WOW-MMORPG-/290913321455?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_JoysticksJoypadsGamepads&hash=item43bbc901ef

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Razer-BlackWidow-Ultimate-2013-Elite-Mechanical-With-Light-PC-Gaming-Keyboard-/151206786116?pt=UK_Computing_ComputerComponents_KeyboardsMice&hash=item2334a07444

In lamens terms andy? Lol.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[andy01424]

ok first OS and Software unless it says so most software works on the 32 bit system...

Windows 7 32bit will only run 32 bit programmes,while processor is not effected memory is as it has a max of 4gb
Windows 64bit,will run both 32+64 bit programmes difference being if using the 64 bit side it will use the programmes[software] that is designed to work on on it,hence why on motherboard specs always look for max memory it can carry most are 32gb some only 12mb

Windows 32bit max memory is 4gb---- problem being Os and Antivirus will eat 60% of it
Windows 7 64 bit 192gb---------big difference
www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/max-memory-limits-for-64-bit-windows-7/4254
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Graphics only really need anything that will play for Vid editing etc a basic hd spec one should be fine these are around £40-50,high end ones are mainly used for gaming and can cost upto £1000 take the nvidia titan 6gb ddr 5 thats £945

[andy01424]

this may help dunno how old it is though :
www.videoguys.com/Guide/E/Videoguys+System+Recommendations+for+video+editing/0x4aebb06ba071d2b6a2cd784ce243a6c6.aspx

[Roscopecotrain]

Jan 15, 2014 12:51:55 GMT andy01424 said:

ok first OS and Software unless it says so most software works on the 32 bit system...

Windows 7 32bit will only run 32 bit programmes,while processor is not effected memory is as it has a max of 4gb
Windows 64bit,will run both 32+64 bit programmes difference being if using the 64 bit side it will use the programmes[software] that is designed to work on on it,hence why on motherboard specs always look for max memory it can carry most are 32gb some only 12mb

Windows 32bit max memory is 4gb---- problem being Os and Antivirus will eat 60% of it
Windows 7 64 bit 192gb---------big difference
www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/max-memory-limits-for-64-bit-windows-7/4254
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Graphics only really need anything that will play for Vid editing etc a basic hd spec one should be fine these are around £40-50,high end ones are mainly used for gaming and can cost upto £1000 take the nvidia titan 6gb ddr 5 thats £945

Thanks andy that makes sense now. So best off with 64bit windows.

Right these here as examples have graphics cards yes?
www.ebuyer.com/613568-acer-aspire-xc-105-sff-desktop-dt-sr4ek-004
www.ebuyer.com/567275-acer-aspire-mc-605-desktop-dt-sp4ek-026

What do these have when it just says intel hd or amd hd
www.ebuyer.com/614318-compaq-desktop-pc-d7a33ea-abu
www.ebuyer.com/579771-zoostorm-desktop-pc-7873-0513

Sorry for all the questions.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[Roscopecotrain]

And would a processor with the graphics built in work?

Sent from my Galaxy Note 2

[charon]

Roscopecotrain
agree with most of the above, however if you were ever tempted by SSD, do bear in mind that as with everything they do have a finite life span.
Seperate graphics card every time or else you asking your processor to do way too much at once.

[andy01424]

Jan 15, 2014 13:53:57 GMT charon said:

Roscopecotrain
agree with most of the above, however if you were ever tempted by SSD, do bear in mind that as with everything they do have a finite life span.
Seperate graphics card every time or else you asking your processor to do way too much at once.

Agree with Charon,your better off building your own PC,all ebuyer etc does is use the lowest end of the market only bonus is Windows.....silly queastion is building a PC worrying ,its pretty simple ,in basic terms lego!

[a1laserboy]

Good move on going for a desktop machine, much better bang for your buck than a laptop, plus it's hard to get a laptop with win7 on it now.

I'd suggest that once you have your new machine, wipe your laptop and put a fresh install of windows on it - you'll be surprised at how much better it will run.

[Super-Shiny]

Desktop P.C all the way for me, easier to upgrade and replace parts, and for me work a lot better than a laptop, I got mine from here: www.meshcomputers.com/Default.aspx?PAGE=MAINPAGE_VII