Another very stupid question.......will I ever get it?

[emmita]

I have been looking at the screen shots of the recipes ......most look delicious.  Mmmmm!  But I am confused in that they seem to only show the flavourings and do not show (as far as I can see) any nicotine base or diluents percentages.
My usual mix calculator i.e. the basic one show in Mix Calc, would show the exact quantities of Nic base plus some PG/VG to dilute the original nic base down the the required level, then the flavouring quantities.  Am I missing something.  Hope you can understand my question or maybe it is as confused as I feel about the screen shot recipies!!!

[Pepperty]

as long as it lists percentages of flavours - it shouldn't matter as everyone uses different nicotine base strengths, has own pg/vg set up and may mix in different amounts. Only thing you need to know is recipe percentage of each flavour from that you just key into ejuicemeup (example of mixing calculator)

[Pepperty]

for example, I had a bottle of 54 nicotine base (now used up) so I am opening up my 72 nicotine base - the percentage will be different. Thats why i'll use the eliquid calculator to work out for me.

I like a 60/40 mix, so I need to tell calculator that this is what I want as end result, and I'm starting to mix at 12mg nicotine as output, so it can work that out for me (it will be different for everyone) the only static fact I need to know is what percentage a specific flavour should be within my mix. ie.

custard,
20% capella vanilla custard
5% TPA French Vanilla Deluxe
1% TPA Sweetener

>>thats Perps recipe for custard.

[lairey]

emmita exactly as Pepperty said, everyone uses different base liquid and wants a different result for nic % and pg/vg ratio, so the recipes on the board just give the flavouring % so you can add those % and your own personal preferences for all of the above into the mixing calculator of your choice to get your recipe tailored to your own stock and preferences

[emmita]

Looks like I am going to have to think about this in a darkened room for a few hours. Are these percentages the same regardless of the quantity made up for say either 10ml or 30ml. ? I have some premade unflavoured nic base at 18mg. How do I go about adding the flavours as per Perps custard recipe for both quantities? . Are all the recipes based on one particular quantity, and by adding the flavours does this not reduce the nicotine mg level?

[fred]

What pg/VG ratio do you want?
Is your base pg or VG?
What nic strength do you want you finished liquid to be?

Once we know, we can give you ml quantities to mix together

[Perpetua]

Jan 16, 2014 10:56:43 GMT emmita said:

Looks like I am going to have to think about this in a darkened room for a few hours. Are these percentages the same regardless of the quantity made up for say either 10ml or 30ml. ? I have some premade unflavoured nic base at 18mg. How do I go about adding the flavours as per Perps custard recipe for both quantities? . Are all the recipes based on one particular quantity, and by adding the flavours does this not reduce the nicotine mg level?

Yes they are emmita and yes it will . . . that's the problem with an 18mg base it doesn't give you much leeway, unless you're happy with a lower strength.

Assuming your base is PG or even 50/50, then the nearest volumes I can get to make 10ml @12mg are:

6.70ml Nic Base
2.5ml VC
0.6ml ( 18 drops ) FVD
0.1ml ( 3 drops ) Sweetener

That's a rough guide though, to be 100% accurate, then we'll need to know the info as Fred has already suggested.

Have you tried using the forums Mixing Calculator?

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/page/calculator

[emmita]

Ok, I think I must not be explaining myself very well.  I'd like to make this recipe:



Are those flavour quantities to be added to a 10ml final quantity of ejuice.  What percentages do I need to add for a final quantity of 30ml ejuice.  Starting with 18mg nic base already prepared.  Yes I have used the onsite Mix Calc, but so far with only one flavour, this is my dilemma.

If I use the above flavour calulation for both a 10ml and 30 ml quantity, surely the flavour is going to be weaker in the 30ml quantity?

[Roger]

Jan 16, 2014 13:20:29 GMT emmita said:

Ok, I think I must not be explaining myself very well.  I'd like to make this recipe:



Are those flavour quantities to be added to a 10ml final quantity of ejuice.  What percentages do I need to add for a final quantity of 30ml ejuice.  Starting with 18mg nic base already prepared.  Yes I have used the onsite Mix Calc, but so far with only one flavour, this is my dilemma.

If I use the above flavour calulation for both a 10ml and 30 ml quantity, surely the flavour is going to be weaker in the 30ml quantity?

Why should it be, take the vanilla custard, 25% of 10ml is 2.5ml, 25% of 30ml is 7.5ml.  You obviously have to add more flavouring in a larger mix, but the % of the final mix is the same.    If you have an 18mg premix you will lower the final nic mg as you are adding a total of 30.4% flavouring in the above example.  That is why starting with a pre mix of 18mg is a bad idea if you want a mix of about 18mg.  To make 10ml using that recipe with an 18mg mix will give you a final mix of approx 11.8mg.

[toots]

According to my calculations you would need the following:

20.16 ml nic base (@18mg already mixed you say)

7.5ml Vanilla Custard = 25%

1.8ml French Vanilla Deluxe = 6%

0.54 Sweetener = 1.8%

However this would then dilute the nicotine level down to 12mg

You would use exactly the same rate of percentages of flavouring to calculate end result of 30ml as you would for 10ml (25% 6% 1.8% respectively)

Hope that helps

[lairey]

Hi emmita, if you can answer the questions below, I'll post up the actual recipe for you

What mg is your nic base?
Is your nic base PG or VG?
What mg nic do you want to end up with?
what pg/vg ratio do you want to end up with?
And how many ml do you want to make? (I'm assuming 30ml)

[Roger]

Jan 16, 2014 13:41:55 GMT lairey said:

Hi emmita, if you can answer the questions below, I'll post up the actual recipe for you

What mg is your nic base?
Is your nic base PG or VG?
What mg nic do you want to end up with?
what pg/vg ratio do you want to end up with?
And how many ml do you want to make? (I'm assuming 30ml)

He has already said 18mg pre mixed

[DiscoDes]

emmita With this recipe @ 70pg/30vg using 18mg nic base the highest nic of the resultant mix can be no higher than 6mg.

I did'nt realise the base was 50/50 pg vg

[toots]

Haha Roger you posted your message whilst I was calculating the 30ml mix. Didn't see your post till after I had posted mine

[Roger]

Jan 16, 2014 13:44:33 GMT toots said:

Haha Roger you posted your message whilst I was calculating the 30ml mix. Didn't see your post till after I had posted mine

Same here toots