A New member but a 4 month vaper ( I want to treat myself)

[boyofford]

Mar 5, 2014 16:57:12 GMT richardb2 said:

Thanks all . I have not tried cotton wool wicks yet. Maybe a trip to boots ( or a rumage in my wifes draws ) is in order. The Kayfun or versions of it seems to have a lot of fans here. I will look at that.

Richard

I used boots cotton wool and thought there was a funny taste... not sure if true for sure but may have bleach on it.
Best to use organic wool, boot had some organic makeup remover pads which I used for a bit... bit of a PITA to get the wool out though and false economy really..... can buy on amazon, which is what I've done now, postage costs are as much as wool from memory but 1 bag will last you years!

Much easier to make tidy coil, place in device then put cotton wool through than using other wickes... and can just change wool every few days, great for dripping and can dryburn in between.

[giles]

I use organic cotton wool, but if you read the blurb on the pack it is all about the farming, and nothing about the subsequent treatment. Then again it is not much more expensive and a pack lasts all year. @yinyang reckons that virtually all cotton wool is bleached, and I see no reason to disbelieve him.

[boyofford]

Mar 5, 2014 21:38:46 GMT giles said:

I use organic cotton wool, but if you read the blurb on the pack it is all about the farming, and nothing about the subsequent treatment. Then again it is not much more expensive and a pack lasts all year. @yinyang reckons that virtually all cotton wool is bleached, and I see no reason to disbelieve him.

The first wool I had did have a nasty flavour when not saturated... But could be anything, your probably right.

The pads I used actually smelt flowery.. god knows what I was vaping there, forgot that point.

Ones off Amazon best and happy with them, smell of nothing and no weird tastes.

Organic means doesn't automatically mean safe but its a attempt at it lol.

[richardb2]

Mar 5, 2014 11:47:01 GMT giles said:

richardb2


I think there are 4 main types of RBA - Penny/nautilus, aga/oddy, kayfun/russian, and spheroid.

Penny/nautilus are usually a bit more expensive and need res/no/res connections, and in general are more of a faff to build.

Aga/oddy are cheap & easy to use, but if you turn them upside down the juice falls out.

Kayfun/russian in my opinion give the best vape and are easy to recoil and leak-free. But originals are expensive and clones mostly seem to need work after you get them - cleaning swarf out of the tubes, maybe pfte tape on the filling screw, maybe redrill or some other trick to get rid if the whistle. But once that is done they are great.


I recommend a tobeco kayfun clone and cotton wool in micro-coil.

Enjoy!

Thank you Giles a helpful reply. I think there is a consensus on Kayfun style atomisers.  In the classifieds though there is good looking atomiser called a penelope v1 research says its by golden greek. It needs no resistance wire attached to the coil wire which will be a bit of a faff. Looks pretty and the price is right to have a go and maybe have change for a russian clone as advised by the honerable members of the forum. Certainly  under the more faff to rebuild category. Maybe I can try the cotton with my dripper?  Happy days choices choices .....Richard 

[richardb2]

Mar 5, 2014 23:31:51 GMT boyofford said:

Mar 5, 2014 21:38:46 GMT giles said:

Ones off Amazon best and happy with them, smell of nothing and no weird tastes.

Organic means doesn't automatically mean safe but its a attempt at it lol.

Do you or other members have a link to good cotton? Thanks Richard 

[giles]

I don't know what your dripper is richardb2 but I imagine cotton wool would work fine. I use cotton wool & microcoil in my Igo-L.

I bought organic cotton wool pads from Boots, they work fine.

The Golden Greek doesn't use res/no-res wire in his videos, but I think most other people do. The construction is the same as my Nautilus. I actually have all res in that atm, but I double-twist the wire, and it is .28, for the microcoil, so it is not that high res in the first place. And it is still a faff compared to the kayfun. I haven't used the Nautilus recently - it has started tasting a bit burnt and I haven't bothered to rewick it.

[giles]

Something else to think about when buying an RBA - what material for the tank? I got steel with the Nautilus, but I hate not seeing how much juice is left. So I bought a big glass tank & chimney extension, cost me nearly as much as the Nautilus did.

[richardb2]

Mar 6, 2014 0:18:00 GMT giles said:

I don't know what your dripper is richardb2 but I imagine cotton wool would work fine. I use cotton wool & microcoil in my Igo-L.

I bought organic cotton wool pads from Boots, they work fine.

The Golden Greek doesn't use res/no-res wire in his videos, but I think most other people do. The construction is the same as my Nautilus. I actually have all res in that atm, but I double-twist the wire, and it is .28, for the microcoil, so it is not that high res in the first place. And it is still a faff compared to the kayfun. I haven't used the Nautilus recently - it has started tasting a bit burnt and I haven't bothered to rewick it.

Blimy Giles what do you mean you double twist the wires. Its all ( golden ) Greek to me 
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Seriously I just watched a couple of vids on youtube and they all attached these no resistance wires to the end of the coil wire. Do you think that is un- neccesary? If I understand resistance correctly ( more youtube) a thicker wire ( is .28  thick ) has less resistance so maybe thats akin to no resistance wire? I seem to have gone off topic looking for the best vape and all of a sudden seduced by a lovely name and pretty atomiser. I do fancy it though.

For the record following the cruel pickpocketing of my vamo and Davide atomiser on my remaining ninja/korean mech I have an IGO dripper and an Octopus Dripper . The IGO is a fat shiny thing the octopus a skinny one. The Octopus is suppose to have about 8 thin wickes but in my rebuild has one big one, sometimes two . I actually brought off ebay a magnifying glass on a stand to even stand a chance at coil making. It is far from perfect but they glow red hot and  I haven't had a B & H  for weeks now. 

Thanks for replying Richard 

[shiny]

Hi,
After all the hundreds of pounds I have spent on vaping gear from the bottom to the top I would still have to recommend the Kayfun Lite as the best piece of equipment I ever owned.
Easy to set up with a micro coil, I used 0.3mm wire wrapped around a cocktail stick 8 times to give 1.1ohms, then pulled off the cotton from a Q tip and after pulling it out to size poked it through the coil then cut to size.
Good build quality and easy to clean. Bullet proof as an every day and parts if you need them readily available and like the atomiser a fair price.
For the mod GP Paps would be my choice (v3 just released ) but that can come later just make sure you get a 22mm mod to match the Kayfun or you will develop OCD in no time!!
Batteries I would use only AW IMR, don't be tempted by cheaper makes.
Just remember like the VW advert "and it sounds just like a Golf", spend as much as you can afford, after all your not spending £2000 a year on smokes anymore !!

[enjay]

Hey up Richard, personally I'm finding the mesh to work best in my AGI rba

greyhaze.co.uk/products/agi-rebuildable-tank-dripping-atomizer

I think you might be able to find it cheaper but it works well, never leaks and is well constructed. You can also use it as a dripper or tank.

This is meant to be about the best Kayfun clone around

www.hightectrading.com/kayfun-russian-91-with-clear-tube-1628-p.asp

Easy to sort the screws out too, there's a thread on here with links to replacements, it's the little fill one on the bottom that's supposed to be a problem.

Anyway loads of vids on youtube on building coils and wicks for just about any set up you can think of, a couple of peoples I use are Rip Trippers and Todds Reviews.

Cotton wool you can either get the organic stuff from health food shops or whatever but just boil it stupid for a good while to get any crap out of it.

My favourite wick so far is mesh with cotton wool, great taste and loads of vape.

[giles]

Sorry richardb2, didn't mean to make it sound complicated! I just mean that I bent the wire tails up and back and twisted them a bit, so that I had three wires twisted together going down to the base. Three wires twisted together gives you less than the resistance of the one wire by itself. I found that a bit easier than joining res to no res. But however you do it will be more hassle than the Igo-L.

.28 wire (or shiny's 3.0) is a relatively low resistance wire to use for making a coil. We use that for microcoils, which have a lot of turns (maybe 10), and would otherwise have a resistance which is too high. Ordinary coils use maybe 0.16 wire, and yes, twisting three of that would be a longer way from no-res.

The reason people use no-res on penny/nautilus is that such devices have long tails between the coil and the base. So if you just use res wire you effectively have a high-res atty with a lot of the power being delivered a long way from the air-hole, which is thus wasted. So you get less power to the coil itself. I pump up the volts on my vamo or SVD to compensate, and on my set-up it manages to get enough power to the coil. I don't know how it would work with a mech mod.

[boyofford]

Mar 5, 2014 23:57:39 GMT richardb2 said:

Mar 5, 2014 23:31:51 GMT boyofford said:

Ones off Amazon best and happy with them, smell of nothing and no weird tastes.

Organic means doesn't automatically mean safe but its a attempt at it lol.

Do you or other members have a link to good cotton? Thanks Richard 

This is what I bought I think www.amazon.co.uk/Simply-Gentle-Organic-Cotton-Balls/dp/B005L6JN9M/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1394099968&sr=8-2&keywords=organic+cotton+wool

There is another thread on here regarding cotton wool and wether organic is actually any better.
For me this stuff is fine, nice density, therefore easy to work with, and no wierd tastes.... but all that is just my opinon.

[seniorphil]

Hello and welcome.

[dave]

richardb2 if you are interested in the Penelope (which is good by the way ). Life is much simpler if you get some of these:

www.stealthvape.co.uk/rebuildable-supplies/pre-made-joined-resistance-no-resistance-wires

[richardb2]

Why the blazes are original atties so hard to buy? I almost fell of my chair when I saw the low price of a Kayfun clone recommended on this thread and the russian one has mega good reviews. For no logical reason I did ( am loosing the will now ) fancy the penelopy or the newly discovered by me at least ithaka but they are rarer than platypus eggs for breakfast. If the inventors cant actually bring them to market ( dragons den speak ) why bother. The official vendors are out of everything. But fasttech sells them ( I take it they arnt an official vendor ). Seriously in no other busness would your product be unavailable and you retain credibility.

I think its the russian thingy for me and damm good it looks . Thanks guys you have all been really helpful.

On a positive I brought a sample pack from Chefs Vapour and am looking forward to some new juices.

Richard