Flavour disappearing

[crazyquilter]

I have written this already this morning, but when looking for answers, it wasn't there.  Flippin typical of me.  So here I go again.

After the tank is about 2/3rds full I lose the flavour.  I have tried all different brands.  In fact I don't even want to think of the amount of money I have spent trying to find the best brand with the best flavour.  This week end I bought another 3 bottles from a posh shop.  I got to sample the flavours in the shop and believe me they were to die for.  However, same old story, when I got home and used them one third down and flavour disappears.  Last week I bought a Kangertec, because I thought it was my C4 clearos which was causing this, but no this is still happening.  I read somewhere that it is a common problem because the liquid is being heated up lots of times and therefore loses its flavour.  I haven't heard anyone else complain about this, so what do you think is my problem.   I fill 2 clearos so that I can move from flavour to flavour but it makes no difference.  How can the samples in the shops taste a million times better than what I get at home.   Thanks all.

[markm]

Your taste buds, particularly if you are newish to vaping, can get desensitised to a flavour.
So it will taste best the first time you try it, with diminishing results as you go on.

[crazyquilter]

Nah, Markm, I don't believe this, though I thank you for answering. I think there's a more scientific reason, ie constantly reheating reduces the flavour. I would love to know if that is the case. I think it is more marked in different flavours too. ie the menthol and peppermint, because they are strong, keep their flavour better whereas at the other end of the scale, ie watermelon, it disappears amazingly quickly. Because there is no evidence, of course it could be blamed on de sensitisation of taste buds, but I am not convinced. There must be more folk than me who has noticed this. If you take the remaining juice out of your clearo and put it in a new one, complete with new battery, same thing flavour reduced, so it is not the equipment. Can't do an experiment on my taste buds, so it's easy to blame that and not the liquid. Any food which is constantly boiled will lose its flavour or burn, so where's the difference?

[ronaldo]

to test your theory half fill a clearo vape until bland refill clearo retaste simple

[paolo]

Well in my opinion you definitely get used to a flavour and the taste reduces, but not really within one tank more like over 2-6 weeks for me. Maybe being reheated causes a drop in flavour though that's not something I ever notice. It's being slightly heated in the gear I use but not really substantially heated. Have you tried getting one of those small dripping atomisers 306 I think they're called, it's a bit of faffing around but it might solve your problem.

[crazyquilter]

Nah, Markm, I don't believe this, though I thank you for answering. I think there's a more scientific reason, ie constantly reheating reduces the flavour. I would love to know if that is the case. I think it is more marked in different flavours too. ie the menthol and peppermint, because they are strong, keep their flavour better whereas at the other end of the scale, ie watermelon, it disappears amazingly quickly. Because there is no evidence, of course it could be blamed on de sensitisation of taste buds, but I am not convinced. There must be more folk than me who has noticed this. If you take the remaining juice out of your clearo and put it in a new one, complete with new battery, same thing flavour reduced, so it is not the equipment. Can't do an experiment on my taste buds, so it's easy to blame that and not the liquid. Any food which is constantly boiled will lose its flavour or burn, so where's the difference?

[crazyquilter]

Hi Ronaldo, Been there, done that, same thing. If it's half filled, first few vapes, ok, after that tasteless. Stands to reason, half the liquid gets heated up more than a full tank does. Battery press is for the same length of time so same power for half tank as full tank, ie the half tank gets more heat. This seems logical to me since as your liquid gets reduced in your tank, there is less of it with same heat process as when it is full. Base line, I think this is my answer, could be wrong, but it happens with every liquid, from expensive to cheap. I find it disappointing and am envious to those who seem to get full flavour from beginning to end. Are they really ?????

[Deleted]

The only eliquid in a clearo that is being boiled is the eliquid on the portion of the wick that is within the coil. The remaining eliquid may be slightly warm but not to the extent that any deterioration would take place. If you experience significant heat from the body of a clearo, you have a problem.

[DiscoDes]

Mar 26, 2014 11:09:18 GMT crazyquilter said:

Nah, Markm, I don't believe this, though I thank you for answering. I think there's a more scientific reason, ie constantly reheating reduces the flavour. I would love to know if that is the case. I think it is more marked in different flavours too. ie the menthol and peppermint, because they are strong, keep their flavour better whereas at the other end of the scale, ie watermelon, it disappears amazingly quickly. Because there is no evidence, of course it could be blamed on de sensitisation of taste buds, but I am not convinced. There must be more folk than me who has noticed this. If you take the remaining juice out of your clearo and put it in a new one, complete with new battery, same thing flavour reduced, so it is not the equipment. Can't do an experiment on my taste buds, so it's easy to blame that and not the liquid. Any food which is constantly boiled will lose its flavour or burn, so where's the difference?

Just Google "Vapers Tongue" lots of answers on there.

[djs]

Maltesers? First few - fabulous.

Next few, disappointing.

The rest of the box, pointless.

[markm]

The idea that your juice could get hot enough to diminish the flavour noticeably
Won't stand up to any scrutiny.
The juice won't get 'hot' in any tank, it will only ever get warm. That is until
It gets fed down the wick and boiled off, then it gets quite warm, but it keeps the
Flavour, just as the foods it is designed for will keep the flavour when cooked.

[Brambles]

It does happen, and is all down to the heat vapourising off flavour components quicker then AG or PG.

A bit like cooking. Take a sweet'n'sour dish, you add vinegar. If you were to taste straight away it would be disgustingly strong on the vinegar, but simmer gently and more vinegar boils off than water. Ending with only vinegar which has combined with other compounds in the food. Same with e-juice, some flavours will 'boil' off quicker so remaining juice has less flavour.

[markm]

Mar 26, 2014 11:51:36 GMT Brambles said:

It does happen, and is all down to the heat vapourising off flavour components quicker then AG or PG.

A bit like cooking. Take a sweet'n'sour dish, you add vinegar. If you were to taste straight away it would be disgustingly strong on the vinegar, but simmer gently and more vinegar boils off than water. Ending with only vinegar which has combined with other compounds in the food. Same with e-juice, some flavours will 'boil' off quicker so remaining juice has less flavour.

But there is no simmering happening in any tank, and definitely no boiling off, that only
happens on the coil itself, juice arrives - it gets vapourised, it's a one way flow.

there was mention however of it being a problem with strong tastes. I don't know about
any one else but my first sip of whiskey is always the strongest, same with any other strong taste.

[Brambles]

markm, don't argue with me, I don't know how to answer that.

Its not a one way flow though. Well it might be in some tanks with long wicks, but when it is a short distance to the coil from the tank there will be flow going on.

Try vaping vanilla in a BCC or top coil, the colour gets darker and darker as you use the contents of the tank. That only happens because the gunk left around coil is mixing with contents of the tank.

[markm]

The crud getting washed off the wick is not the same as simmering the liquid in the tank though.
When the coil is getting hot the liquid travels in one direction.