Red Astaire concentrate withdrawn?

[spikus]

I mix mine at 20%.... I've Only ordered a 10 ml bottle ... That'll make 50ml ..I'm hoping T juice see sense... I'm a 50/50 PG/VG person so I need the concentrate ......fingers crossed

[Dan]

After previous conversations with Nigel, he was quite adamant that he wouldn't stop selling RA concentrate and so I'm not sure what to believe..

I know he was very upset about people selling homebrews of his liquid and effectively taking his profits amd so it could well be true.

I sent him a message a few hours ago and will await his reply in the hope it's just a lack of stock. Doesn't seem to be hopeful though..

luckily I stocked up a while ago and so have ~200mls mixed already and a further 60mls of concentrate (will make another 300mls).

I did ask about buying 100mls at a time but this was on hold due to all this dishonesty.

what may have kicked it off is someone trying to sell on 53ml of homebrew on facebook for silly money.. can completely understand why it's been pulled if indeed it has..

all we can do is wait for an official press release..

[jordan]

Apr 6, 2014 20:38:51 GMT Dan said:

After previous conversations with Nigel, he was quite adamant that he wouldn't stop selling RA concentrate and so I'm not sure what to believe..

I know he was very upset about people selling homebrews of his liquid and effectively taking his profits amd so it could well be true.

I sent him a message a few hours ago and will await his reply in the hope it's just a lack of stock. Doesn't seem to be hopeful though..

luckily I stocked up a while ago and so have ~200mls mixed already and a further 60mls of concentrate (will make another 300mls).

I did ask about buying 100mls at a time but this was on hold due to all this dishonesty.

what may have kicked it off is someone trying to sell on 53ml of homebrew on facebook for silly money.. can completely understand why it's been pulled if indeed it has..

all we can do is wait for an official press release..

Was that the guy trying to sell home mixed red astaire that he hadnt even mixed himself so didnt know the nic or ratios for £20 plus postage? 

[Dan]

Apr 6, 2014 20:44:47 GMT jordan said:

Apr 6, 2014 20:38:51 GMT Dan said:

After previous conversations with Nigel, he was quite adamant that he wouldn't stop selling RA concentrate and so I'm not sure what to believe..

I know he was very upset about people selling homebrews of his liquid and effectively taking his profits amd so it could well be true.

I sent him a message a few hours ago and will await his reply in the hope it's just a lack of stock. Doesn't seem to be hopeful though..

luckily I stocked up a while ago and so have ~200mls mixed already and a further 60mls of concentrate (will make another 300mls).

I did ask about buying 100mls at a time but this was on hold due to all this dishonesty.

what may have kicked it off is someone trying to sell on 53ml of homebrew on facebook for silly money.. can completely understand why it's been pulled if indeed it has..

all we can do is wait for an official press release..

Was that the guy trying to sell home mixed red astaire that he hadnt even mixed himself so didnt know the nic or ratios for £20 plus postage? 

That's the one

boiled my blood personally

[jordan]

Apr 6, 2014 20:46:21 GMT Dan said:

Apr 6, 2014 20:44:47 GMT jordan said:

Was that the guy trying to sell home mixed red astaire that he hadnt even mixed himself so didnt know the nic or ratios for £20 plus postage? 

That's the one

boiled my blood personally

Mine too mate, selling home mix is a bit dodgy in the first place, it happens but to sell on someone elses home mix that you have no idea what the nic strength or the ratios are is just irresponsible 

[Dan]

Apr 6, 2014 20:48:43 GMT jordan said:

Apr 6, 2014 20:46:21 GMT Dan said:

That's the one

boiled my blood personally

Mine too mate, selling home mix is a bit dodgy in the first place, it happens but to sell on someone elses home mix that you have no idea what the nic strength or the ratios are is just irresponsible 

What annoys me the most is that I posted on all the trade facebook pages a while ago with a simple request to the admin running them..

please stop allowing the selling and trading of homemade liquid.

one of them got the right hump and inundated me with pms..

was a home mixer too!

End of the day, why should you benefit from the plus points of homemixes if you cba to make the effort of making it?

Savings are stupendous so it's more than worth the hassle!

[marlbororman]

NOOO It cant be true, thank gawd i mixed other week. got enough to last a while thank gawd. wont be giving any to my mates now. i mix 60/40 15mg perfect. premix is too harsh for me

[gapy360]

Disappointed to read this, RA is my Adv, luckily I'm happy with the premixed. Have just started ordering from ukecigstore as it is actually cheaper than from T-Juice themselves, even buying 10mls bottles rather than 30mls. It could be T-Juice want to move more to a wholesale suppler model rather than selling themselves. Also they did run out of premixed the other week, but based on someone's email that their order had been cancelled it doesn't sound the same. Well have to see what Nige says when he reads this.

[Debbie13]

I can totally understand why if they do...I am sick of seeing diy mixers on FB groups selling this under all sorts of names...I buy it, I mix it and I vape it.....bugger selling it on...I love the stuff....Good job that Affro has taken top spot over it in the last month for me.......

[collie2011]

Someone just started a new thread saying t-juice have confirmed. Gutted, this was on my list to try

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[boyofford]

Just seen this thread, I put similar in mixology earlier.

I messaged t-juice after seeing mention on Facebook and had email back ..... Yep, Nige is stopping selling RA conc...gutted.
Emailed him back to ask about other juice concs...but to be fair I can live without the others I've used, RA is there best by far ....though the mother inlaw uses there eastern blend and can't afford to keep sorting her out if have to buy pre mix.

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[boyofford]

Apr 6, 2014 22:26:00 GMT collie2011 said:

Someone just started a new thread saying t-juice have confirmed. Gutted, this was on my list to try

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Yep, that was me.

You should still try the premix, it very special, just try not to get hooked!

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[babs]

RA back in stock on t-juice site

[spikus]

Thanks babs .... Just panic bought another 30 ml... Phew...

[Perpetua]

Apr 7, 2014 8:00:30 GMT babs said:

RA back in stock on t-juice site

Apr 7, 2014 7:37:11 GMT dagl said:

fb T-Juice statement
"To all beloved FB fans.

As you may know, we are seriously considering pulling the Red Astaire concentrate from sale, and maybe others. I know this will affect many people, but due to quite a few reasons, we are being forced to do so. Personally I am very upset that this may come to pass.

How you can help and what DIY is about...

Do not buy from anyone who is not an official premixed T-Juice reseller. The bottles MUST have an official label (Nice new one with Union Jack on front, some may have old style brown and white, logo on the right). If you see people trying to sell these externally mixed juices, please denounce them on whatever forum they frequent.
This may seem radical, but it is important to understand why we have released concentrates to the public. a) for personal use DIY b) for accessibility c) diluent ratio choice (people who are intolerant to PG etc.).

We are more than happy if people, within DIY networks and forums, want to exchange their mixes, but not for profit. Isn't that the SPIRIT of DIY????

We have received a certain amount of abuse from these people and their collaborators, which is no skin of my nose, but also shows what sort of people we are dealing with here. I would appreciate if this stops

We will run with this concentrate for the moment on a limited purchase of two bottles per order basis and see what happens.
I know all of you good peeps will support our decision, whatever the outcome.

Happy Vaping!

T-Juice x"