Red Astaire concentrate withdrawn?

[chykensa]

Quite agree @john2k5 - if it's true, a bad business decision at best. OK, restrict the concentrate sales for a few months to moderate the demand perhaps, but to pull it completely? - I won't be at all impressed. They can surely expect their business to plummet as a result, and there will be hundreds if not thousands of vapers going elsewhere as a result.
More than once I have tried another flavour while ordering RA conc, and I'm sure there are many others like me.

[Karma]

It's always a few that spoil it for everyone else isn't it

isn't that always the way toots

I'm also hoping it doesn't happen to JTR

[dickyg]

Surely they can identify the ones that are purchasing in an amount needed to mix for sale. I order 30mls every month or so, if I was mixing it to resell it'd hardly be building my pension pot at that quantity.

[Jerri]

It also alienated anyone who doesn't like 80/20 mix. Since they don't offer ratio options.

I like some t-juice flavours but never buy them because I vape 50/50 and find 80/20 too harsh.

But they're a big business. I'm sure they haven't just decided this randomly. They will have factored in loss of sales etc and people who will decide to boycott and decided that it's worth that loss. Which means they must be loosing a massive amount of cash to people on FB groups etc selling RA.

[Deleted]

Completely agree. I buy 60ml every month, 30ml for me and 30ml for a friend. Its hardly an amount I could build a business selling. I've tried all of their flavours, thanks to adding a 10ml on every red astaire order, quite like their colonel custard, but I'll be damned if I spend another penny there if they pull it. I would assume there will be a LOT of vapers doing the same.

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[chykensa]

Time will tell, dear vaping friends, time will tell.
Anyone managed to crack a recipe for RA yet!!?

[Deleted]

See that's where they had it right. No-one needed to clone it, so they had a monopoly on their flavour. I can see people trying now, and that will surely hurt them more than people reselling their own concentrate.

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[Greg]

I just had 60ml delivered on Friday, I'd be surprised if they pull it completely given its popularity. It was also outofthe stock a month or so ago so hopefully it's just it's popularity causing a short term stock issue again.

I've tried tangerine dream, minty the toff and just got high voltage. Gave to say their all pants in comparison to RA. To be fair to HV it may need steeping so I'll reserve judgement for a week or two. It does smell nice, like cherry slush puppy

[toots]

Apr 6, 2014 17:10:47 GMT Greg said:

I've tried tangerine dream, minty the toff and just got high voltage. Gave to say their all pants in comparison to RA. To be fair to HV it may need steeping so I'll reserve judgement for a week or two. It does smell nice, like cherry slush puppy

I've only tried some of their pre-made High Voltage and I must say I loved the cherry flavour, but just could not get on with the minty side of it, hence I never bought any more of that or the concentrate. Now if they were to do that cherry on its own I would have got it in concentrate form.

Tried other brands of cherry but never liked them, nothing like the cherry in high voltage

[Greg]

Apr 6, 2014 17:18:52 GMT toots said:

Apr 6, 2014 17:10:47 GMT Greg said:

I've tried tangerine dream, minty the toff and just got high voltage. Gave to say their all pants in comparison to RA. To be fair to HV it may need steeping so I'll reserve judgement for a week or two. It does smell nice, like cherry slush puppy

I've only tried some of their pre-made High Voltage and I must say I loved the cherry flavour, but just could not get on with the minty side of it, hence I never bought any more of that or the concentrate. Now if they were to do that cherry on its own I would have got it in concentrate form.

Tried other brands of cherry but never liked them, nothing like the cherry in high voltage

Oh hopefully it will mature then 
Tastes somewhat washed out at present.

[dickyg]

Apr 6, 2014 17:18:52 GMT toots said:

Apr 6, 2014 17:10:47 GMT Greg said:

I've tried tangerine dream, minty the toff and just got high voltage. Gave to say their all pants in comparison to RA. To be fair to HV it may need steeping so I'll reserve judgement for a week or two. It does smell nice, like cherry slush puppy

I've only tried some of their pre-made High Voltage and I must say I loved the cherry flavour, but just could not get on with the minty side of it, hence I never bought any more of that or the concentrate. Now if they were to do that cherry on its own I would have got it in concentrate form.

Tried other brands of cherry but never liked them, nothing like the cherry in high voltage

What did you try it in? I've heard mention it may be a tank cracker, but my glass clearos are already taken with other juices. Have an iclear 30 sitting round but don't want to risk it.

[chykensa]

Apr 6, 2014 17:10:21 GMT @john2k5 said:

See that's where they had it right. No-one needed to clone it, so they had a monopoly on their flavour. I can see people trying now, and that will surely hurt them more than people reselling their own concentrate.

I had my tongue firmly in my cheek when I sad that @john2k5, but you make a valid point. I really can't see them jeopardise their business like this. I hope that they are reading this thread so they can see what support they have from this forum, replicated I'm sure by members on other fora.
I suspect that the recipe is fairly complex, and certainly wouldn't even attempt to clone it with my limited knowledge of flavourings so far!

[Karma]

If people are reselling their homebrews and copying the T-Juice label then selling it as the real deal, I can fully understand why T-Juice have taken this stance.

Who would get the blame if something went wrong?

[Greg]

Apr 6, 2014 17:25:22 GMT dickyg said:

Apr 6, 2014 17:18:52 GMT toots said:

I've only tried some of their pre-made High Voltage and I must say I loved the cherry flavour, but just could not get on with the minty side of it, hence I never bought any more of that or the concentrate. Now if they were to do that cherry on its own I would have got it in concentrate form.

Tried other brands of cherry but never liked them, nothing like the cherry in high voltage

What did you try it in? I've heard mention it may be a tank cracker, but my glass clearos are already taken with other juices. Have an iclear 30 sitting round but don't want to risk it.

It's in my kayfun with clear window. I'll let you know if it cracks it 

[poochops]

I'd have thought it would be relatively simple to limit an order to 1x30ml bottle, even to limit orders to 30ml a month per person, that's got to be better than alienating your loyal customers. I've spent a fair wedge with TJ and now they're taking their ball home and not playing, that stinks in my opinion, the missus is livid!

Sledgehammers and nuts come to mind, granted there is a problem but you don't fix the problem by getting mrs poo all wound up, you put measures in place and then put up with the small amount of leakage, at the end of the day they're still making a sale.

No this sucks, really really poor form.

Rant over