T-Juice are stopping selling Red Astaire concentrate!

[Steve (VapeStorm)]

Lol think of everyone camping at vapefest. "Hey maan, got any RA? I gotta have a hit" "illl give you my vtr for a ml"

Lol

[bootneck]

I'm not overly worried,I'm a gnats fart away from perfecting a taste alike and if it wasn't for the fact my manager is on holiday this week and I have to manage the shop it would be done by the end of the week,as soon as I have the recipe right (to my taste) I will share it on the forums for those who mix to give it a try,if nothing else it will give everyone a basic recipe to re-work to exactly their taste.

[boyofford]

Apr 7, 2014 0:24:05 GMT bootneck said:

I'm not overly worried,I'm a gnats fart away from perfecting a taste alike and if it wasn't for the fact my manager is on holiday this week and I have to manage the shop it would be done by the end of the week,as soon as I have the recipe right (to my taste) I will share it on the forums for those who mix to give it a try,if nothing else it will give everyone a basic recipe to re-work to exactly their taste.

That would be awesome, I have no idea how to make anything similar.
I mostly one shot mix.


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[boyofford]

Apr 7, 2014 0:21:04 GMT Steve (VapeStorm) said:

Lol think of everyone camping at vapefest. "Hey maan, got any RA? I gotta have a hit" "illl give you my vtr for a ml"

Lol

30ml......erm, I'll give you my car.

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[Perpetua]

Mostly I'm disgusted at the people, Vendors or otherwise who have forced this situation upon Nige . . . and disappointed for those of us who haven't abused the availability of RA concentrate.

[jacquif]

Not going to start a clone war here, god knows I get enough of that on another forum but it's all the same argument. Clone mods and now clone juices. Is there really much of a difference? It's still affecting someone's business - the price of the product still comes into it as people are buying the clone juice as it's cheaper. Quick analogy. TJuice take their time to create a good juice and it's ripped off. They decide to pull it (if that's why they did it). Little mod maker creates a mod and it's ripped off by others who can make it cheaper. But to the people buying the clone mods that's different and ok. Is it really?

[Perpetua]

For me it's also about how a product is advertised/marketed jacquif . . . if you're buying a cloned device, then as a rule it is advertised as such - it's then down to your personal decision and conscience to buy it or not.

If my understanding of this particular situation is correct, RA concentrate was being purchased/mixed and sold on as the original Tjuice blend/brand eliquid - which it wasn't.

Unfortunately one of the repercussions of this that I can see, is that it will deter any others who also sell popular premium eliquid, from releasing the flavour in concentrate form. And who can blame them.

[jacquif]

Apr 7, 2014 6:45:00 GMT Perpetua said:

For me it's also about how a product is advertised/marketed jacquif . . . if you're buying a cloned device, then as a rule it is advertised as such - it's then down to your personal decision and conscience to buy it or not.

If my understanding of this particular situation is correct, RA concentrate was being purchased/mixed and sold on as the original Tjuice blend/brand eliquid - which it wasn't.

Unfortunately one of the repercussions of this that I can see, is that it will deter any others who also sell popular premium eliquid, from releasing the flavour in concentrate form. And who can blame them.

Valid point but there are also some unscrupulous people who will sell clone mods as originals, and we've already come across quite a few of them. Unsuspecting buyers get ripped off that way too. 

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Thank God that I am one of only a handful of people who like Flavourart Golden Rollie although I have enough concentrate to do me 2 years

[Perpetua]

Apr 7, 2014 6:51:50 GMT jacquif said:

Apr 7, 2014 6:45:00 GMT Perpetua said:

For me it's also about how a product is advertised/marketed jacquif . . . if you're buying a cloned device, then as a rule it is advertised as such - it's then down to your personal decision and conscience to buy it or not.

If my understanding of this particular situation is correct, RA concentrate was being purchased/mixed and sold on as the original Tjuice blend/brand eliquid - which it wasn't.

Unfortunately one of the repercussions of this that I can see, is that it will deter any others who also sell popular premium eliquid, from releasing the flavour in concentrate form. And who can blame them.

Valid point but there are also some unscrupulous people who will sell clone mods as originals, and we've already come across quite a few of them. Unsuspecting buyers get ripped off that way too. 

Sadly there are unscrupulous people in all walks of life.

[dragon]

What gets my goat though is that most people are scrupulous. T-juice is bulldozing the playground to deal with a couple of bullies. The idiots will find fresh pastures but the people who are most effected, by no fault of their own are the decent and honest.

[Perpetua]

I guess they felt they had to make a stand dragon . . . despite earlier warnings, that have been completely ignored. We all unfortunately pay the price.

[dragon]

Then put the price up, I would happily pay 3x the price for the concentrate rather than have it removed completely.

[dagl]

fb T-Juice statement
"To all beloved FB fans.

As you may know, we are seriously considering pulling the Red Astaire concentrate from sale, and maybe others. I know this will affect many people, but due to quite a few reasons, we are being forced to do so. Personally I am very upset that this may come to pass.

How you can help and what DIY is about...

Do not buy from anyone who is not an official premixed T-Juice reseller. The bottles MUST have an official label (Nice new one with Union Jack on front, some may have old style brown and white, logo on the right). If you see people trying to sell these externally mixed juices, please denounce them on whatever forum they frequent.
This may seem radical, but it is important to understand why we have released concentrates to the public. a) for personal use DIY b) for accessibility c) diluent ratio choice (people who are intolerant to PG etc.).

We are more than happy if people, within DIY networks and forums, want to exchange their mixes, but not for profit. Isn't that the SPIRIT of DIY????

We have received a certain amount of abuse from these people and their collaborators, which is no skin of my nose, but also shows what sort of people we are dealing with here. I would appreciate if this stops

We will run with this concentrate for the moment on a limited purchase of two bottles per order basis and see what happens.
I know all of you good peeps will support our decision, whatever the outcome.

Happy Vaping!

T-Juice x"

[newdawn]

Nothing wrong with limiting it to two bottles per order. Very fair in fact. Well played T-Juice!