how come we get a cigalike ad banner

[Bluefish]

Plus if a lot of us had not started on that type of e-cig then they would not have moved on to other things or here, that may or may not be a good thing lol

[Chrissie]

May 21, 2014 22:21:05 GMT Bluefish said:

May 14, 2014 20:55:16 GMT OneDay said:

I have to say....

When the only vv device available (other than the Provari) was the Lavatube, Apollo had the best price anywhere and a lot of people (including me) got their first taste of variable voltage vaping thanks to Apollo

I was going to say that when I got to the end of the thread, still got mine, and after 2 years it still works, so yay go Apollo. I don't see what the problem is if you don't like the advert don't buy the product, or do the people complaining complain to the tv companies and papers and roadside billboards about their adds as well?

Andy, the main problem with the advert, as far as I was concerned, is that it made it look like AAE-C was promoting Apollo above every other vendor

[Bluefish]

Have you had a word with Proboards about it Chrissie, maybe they could get them to put a disclaimer in e'cig company's adds?

[djs]

I am tempted to write some reviews on Apollo.

Maybe they will leave of their own accord.

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(I blame the person who invited them in..... they are not "here" by chance)

[Chrissie]

May 22, 2014 17:40:46 GMT Bluefish said:

Have you had a word with Proboards about it Chrissie, maybe they could get them to put a disclaimer in e'cig company's adds?

Andy, no other companies want to have banner ads on our forum due to it's content - hence why we were only getting proboards in house banners that meant that Proboards weren't getting any revenue from us. So there is, sadly, no way they would getthem to put a disclaimer in e'cig company's adds?

However, I doubt Apollo ecigs will be happy that they have paid Proboards for ads on this forum & we are blocking them due to the very kind member paying for the ad free credits.

200,000 page view credits now added.

[ronaldo]

difficult one there Chrissie we will all have to have a good think but it looks like they have us over a barrel maybe a button on the top of the forum named recommended vendors and leave the shower of sh*t out

[Bluefish]

Haha, yeah Chrissie they will probably give up paying for the adds when they realise they are blocked and no one's buying from them, VIP will be next or En Joy lol

[djs]

I am not anti ad's per se, especially as we are "over a barrel" as already mentioned.

The thing is; E-Lites or Njoy simply wouldn't waste their money targeting an "enthusiasts" forum.

(like Nescafe instant coffee wouldn't advertise on a coffee forum, or MacD's on a chefs forum).

Apollo sell basic e-cig kit with this kind of insulting "was £x" now "£y" approach which is just embarrassing. (Are you reading, Apollo?)

It's B.S. of the highest order - If they just sold what they sold and didn't pretend, I'd have no problem at all.

Can't we just ask them to stop buying ads through Proboards?

I don't know, maybe I could write to the MD of the UK arm and tell them they are wasting money and just making themselves look rather silly.

(Are you reading, Apollo?)



Do they actually know where their money is going.

[tomj777]

I think the way these adverts work is that the advertiser will buy keywords from the "advertising agency"(AdWords, etc...). If I was VIP or Apollo, I would buy "ecigs, tobacco, cigarette"and the ilk. This forum will figure prominently in the use of these words (that metadata will be what ProBoards will be selling) thus we get these adverts served (and the advertising agent, AdWords or similar and Proboards get cash for page views and click throughs).
It is as it is.

No act of kindness, however small, is ever wasted

[Chrissie]

I think you are spot on tomj777

[djs]

May 24, 2014 16:53:16 GMT Chrissie said:

I think you are spot on tomj777

If it was like this, we'd have got some of big brands all over AAEC months/years ago surely?

I still think somebody at Apollo knows they are "on" here and has no concept of just how incongruous that is.

Should someone come on here and say "I bought from this company....and...." then, unless I get moderated/banned, I'll be quite vocal in my comments about the prices and the fake price reductions.

[Deleted]

Yeah I actually do if it heretical or takes the Lord's name in vain Bluefish

Depends on your morals I guess?

[tomj777]

May 24, 2014 18:08:15 GMT djs said:

May 24, 2014 16:53:16 GMT Chrissie said:

I think you are spot on tomj777

If it was like this, we'd have got some of big brands all over AAEC months/years ago surely?

I still think somebody at Apollo knows they are "on" here and has no concept of just how incongruous that is.

Should someone come on here and say "I bought from this company....and...." then, unless I get moderated/banned, I'll be quite vocal in my comments about the prices and the fake price reductions.

Not so sure - the relevance of vaping has come to the fore relatively recently - so it's likely that the market segment is only now deemed significant enough to have it's own {category / grouping / not sure of the descriptive}. Or that Apollo et al have only recently invested in the advertising group which is linked to Proboards. 

Saying all that, this is the Create a Campaign link within Proboards and looking at the targeting, it does look forum or category specific (and looking at this link, it appears that the categories are very broad), thus it is likely that they are targeting this forum, and may well be monitoring, which is good, I think, for they will potentially also be able to gauge customer feedback / preferences and other market data. Which is not to say they will start promoting Mixology and RBA's - for there's no significant repeat business with those like there is with high margin liquid and repeat sales through clearos, replacement heads, etc.. 

Whether the company is good or not is moot - If there is a problem is one of inferred recommendation and that adverts are an annoyance to some forum users. 

[Chrissie]

May 24, 2014 18:08:15 GMT djs said:

May 24, 2014 16:53:16 GMT Chrissie said:

I think you are spot on tomj777

If it was like this, we'd have got some of big brands all over AAEC months/years ago surely?

I still think somebody at Apollo knows they are "on" here and has no concept of just how incongruous that is.

Should someone come on here and say "I bought from this company....and...." then, unless I get moderated/banned, I'll be quite vocal in my comments about the prices and the fake price reductions.

djs Years/months ago, with the help of a few members, I paid for ad free. But at some point I found out the ads didn't appear even when we had run out of credits. I queried this with Proboards support & this was a reply I got from their president & Ceo -

"For two and a half years we've actually had advertisements completely disabled on your forum due to it's content not being suitable for most advertisers. Your forum has averaged in the past around 50,000 - 100,000 pageviews per day. We essentially took a big loss on your forum, serving tens of millions of ad-free pageviews at no charge because your forum technically does not violate our guidelines, however, we could not run ads on the site since many advertisers do not allow ads on such content.

We recently made changes to our system to allow us to display only "in house" ads that promote our own services, so that no third party ads display. When that change went into place, we switched your forum to our in-house ads. This is why you are now seeing ads.

Patrick" ???

As Proboards where making such a huge loss from hosting AAE-C, it is more than understandable that they have recently taken Apollo as advertisers

May 24, 2014 21:19:34 GMT @johanino said:

Yeah I actually do if it heretical or takes the Lord's name in vain Bluefish

Depends on your morals I guess?

Er, I think I've lost the plot here Jane ??? Or maybe you have ???

May 24, 2014 22:05:27 GMT tomj777 said:

May 24, 2014 18:08:15 GMT djs said:

If it was like this, we'd have got some of big brands all over AAEC months/years ago surely?

I still think somebody at Apollo knows they are "on" here and has no concept of just how incongruous that is.

Should someone come on here and say "I bought from this company....and...." then, unless I get moderated/banned, I'll be quite vocal in my comments about the prices and the fake price reductions.

Not so sure - the relevance of vaping has come to the fore relatively recently - so it's likely that the market segment is only now deemed significant enough to have it's own {category / grouping / not sure of the descriptive}. Or that Apollo et al have only recently invested in the advertising group which is linked to Proboards. 

Saying all that, this is the Create a Campaign link within Proboards and looking at the targeting, it does look forum or category specific (and looking at this link, it appears that the categories are very broad), thus it is likely that they are targeting this forum, and may well be monitoring, which is good, I think, for they will potentially also be able to gauge customer feedback / preferences and other market data. Which is not to say they will start promoting Mixology and RBA's - for there's no significant repeat business with those like there is with high margin liquid and repeat sales through clearos, replacement heads, etc.. 

Whether the company is good or not is moot - If there is a problem is one of inferred recommendation and that adverts are an annoyance to some forum users. 

That's interesting tomj777 - so, if I'm reading that right, it looks like Apollo will  mainly charged for advertising per ad display view & if their ad isn't displaying, they wont be charged.

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May 21, 2014 22:21:05 GMT Bluefish said:

May 14, 2014 20:55:16 GMT OneDay said:

I have to say....

When the only vv device available (other than the Provari) was the Lavatube, Apollo had the best price anywhere and a lot of people (including me) got their first taste of variable voltage vaping thanks to Apollo

I was going to say that when I got to the end of the thread, still got mine, and after 2 years it still works, so yay go Apollo. I don't see what the problem is if you don't like the advert don't buy the product, or do the people complaining complain to the tv companies and papers and roadside billboards about their adds as well?

this is the quote I was replying to.....Chrissie. I complain about TV/Papers/road side ads if they are against the word of God (the bible) or heretical or take the Lord's name in vain...

I guess a lot don't but I do!!!!......Simple . It's not about losing the plot. I'm just calvinist and evangelical (as @stevej will testify to