I'm at my wit's end and really need some help

[lucymissedtheboat]

I haven't been on here for a long time as things had been going well. However, in the past couple of months my vaping habits have become troublesome and I'm probably spending nearly as much on trying to fix issues as I would be if I was smoking! Please forgive me if I use incorrect terminology in my explanation.

Currently I have a kanger protank mini 3 as I did some research online and it seemed like the best option for me; I like low resistance vaping and bottom coils. However using that with ego 1300 battery, which I've been told shouldn't affect how the protank mini functions, is causing problems somewhere along the way:

- I get leakage onto the battery
- eliq sometimes gets in the air chamber despite my best efforts
- the clearomiser heats up very quickly
- I'm losing money on wasted e-liquid
- I having to keep changing the heads on it.

I understand low resistance means the heads get burnt out quicker, but geez, changing the head every 1-2 days? I must be doing something wrong!

I've been vaping for about 3 years now and for a long time I was using Vision Ego clearomisers without any hassle, I'd be able to change the head every two weeks. Then that started going badly and I've tried many types of clearomisers and they've been fine for the first week then the problems start again. Gone are the days where I don't have to worry about cleaning out my clearomisers and make sure I've got spare heads for the weekend.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong and it is causing me a great deal of stress. I'm currently on sick leave from work due to a back injury and I can't afford to keep buying equipment (£60 in the past 8 weeks alone) hoping that I've solved the issues only to be let down again. I'm sure many of you can appreciate when you've got life's various stresses and would love to get some respite by having a good vaping session, it only makes you feel worse when you are unable to soothe your cravings.

I've tried searching for the answer on google and on youtube, but there's so much conflicting info or info that is unhelpful that I'm feeling rather despondent. I don't want to have to give up using e-cigarettes because they have been my saving grace. I buy from a reputable online store, so I know that the products aren't knock-offs, but what is going on?!

I've even swapped over to Liqua eliquid because it is apparently good for not clogging up the threads. When I made the swap to vaping, I was overjoyed that I found an alternative to a nasty habit I could never kick, now it is just causing me hassle because I have no idea what I can do to fix this.

[enjay]

I myself just can't get along with protank type heads, leaking, gurgling the lot no matter how I coil or wick them, I gave up in the end and bought these

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/301194671079?var=600257780897&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

I used these when I first started and they just work, never ever had a single issue, not as handsome as some but the effortlessness of them was just spot on.

I use the kayfun myself now but the OH as well as friends all have the ego or evod type batteries and use the kanger type heads till recently, I got these for a friend and the OH and problems have all gone now.

They vape really nice despite coming in at either 1.8 or 2.1 ohm heads. I usually sit on or below the 1 ohm with a mech but even I like those things.

[Mrsmac]

The kangaroo heads can be hit and miss at times but hang in there. One thing I was not sure of but may I suggest that you look at trying a different battery with your mini protank 3's. Perhaps have a look at the vision spinner battery or the itaste vv3, these batteries will allow you to dial in the went of voltage that you are sending to the atomizer allowing your vape to be more consistent.

The thing is with most of the equipment out there, there will be a certain amount of faff needed to ensure a good vape. I used the mini protank 3's for a while and the other half uses them exclusively. First thing, you need to ensure that the head is firmly screwed in. Because of the design, I also continue drawing a second after my finger is off the fire button on the battery, not hard enough to flood the atomizer, but just enough to clear the vapour that remains in the tubes after drawing. Hoe that makes sense! If not, you will find that confederation can build up and leave a few drops on your battery, a regular wipe and all should be ok.

Bearing in mind that coils are a replaceable item and the life of a coil is dependant on several factors. The protank 3's use a dual coil system. My husbands coils last him around 3-4 days before he needs to clean them, we can get about 2 weeks out of a coil by giving it a rinse at around day 3, doing a quick dry burn until the coils glows red and is reasonably clear and the. Off we go again. The speed at which a head gunks up depends on the juice you are using and how well it is being vaporised and many other variables.

How do you feel about perhaps building your own heads? It is easier than you may think. Have a look at a website called Naturevape. They basically take the kanger protank heads and recoil them with a microcoil and cotton, when the wick starts tasting funny, usually a few days, you open it up, take out the cotton and give it a dry burn, insert fresh cotton and continue vaping. A microcoil and cotton setup lasts a good amount of time, I am into my 3-4 week with a diy one. If you like it, then you will have many options from there and a wealth of information on this forum.

Hope I have t confused you

[Phoenix .]

lucymissedtheboat, you are not on your own here. I have been vaping 2 yrs now have had a few problems that were sorted.

I am now having problems with my equipment and charging. I have bought new chargers and usb leads but that has not solved the problem. I charge my MVP's (about 4hrs) use my iclear16 with new head fill up with my fav juice all set to go but, I only get about 2hrs vape before it needs charging again, the same thing happens with my itazte vv, my Spinner 2's and Twists.
I have 5 sockets that are in continual use all day charging batts that are only lasting 2hrs after being fully charged.

I do understand your frustration,but for me, I cannot see a satisfactory solution as I have had this problem for a long time and followed all the advice given on here, I think I have gremlins in the house.

[Super-Shiny]

Slightly bigger than the Mini Protank but has a airflow base on it so if any liquid did come out the bottom it would not touch the battery: Kanger Aerotank

My wife uses it and has not come across a problem yet, she uses the new heads that came with it just to use them up until i make her some : Upgraded Kanger Dual Coil Head

[decoy]

1st question is how old is the batt and is it vv(ajustable voltage)
unfortunately seepage is the norm for protanks in my experience but get a air flow control vale for it and it stops it leaking on yer batt
just a thought but are you nipping up the heads enuff when fitting them allso try wetting and spreading out the wicks before fitting might help stop the leaks

[lairey]

I agree lucymissedtheboat, the Aiflow Control for the protanks makes the world of difference

Phoenix . how old are your batteries now? Definitely summat up if the MVP is only lasting a couple of hours... even chain vaping mine lasts a couple of days.

[ronaldo]

Jun 5, 2014 5:53:17 GMT Mrsmac said:

The kangaroo heads can be hit and miss at times but hang in there. One thing I was not sure of but may I suggest that you look at trying a different battery with your mini protank 3's. Perhaps have a look at the vision spinner battery or the itaste vv3, these batteries will allow you to dial in the went of voltage that you are sending to the atomizer allowing your vape to be more consistent.

The thing is with most of the equipment out there, there will be a certain amount of faff needed to ensure a good vape. I used the mini protank 3's for a while and the other half uses them exclusively. First thing, you need to ensure that the head is firmly screwed in. Because of the design, I also continue drawing a second after my finger is off the fire button on the battery, not hard enough to flood the atomizer, but just enough to clear the vapour that remains in the tubes after drawing. Hoe that makes sense! If not, you will find that confederation can build up and leave a few drops on your battery, a regular wipe and all should be ok.

Bearing in mind that coils are a replaceable item and the life of a coil is dependant on several factors. The protank 3's use a dual coil system. My husbands coils last him around 3-4 days before he needs to clean them, we can get about 2 weeks out of a coil by giving it a rinse at around day 3, doing a quick dry burn until the coils glows red and is reasonably clear and the. Off we go again. The speed at which a head gunks up depends on the juice you are using and how well it is being vaporised and many other variables.

How do you feel about perhaps building your own heads? It is easier than you may think. Have a look at a website called Naturevape. They basically take the kanger protank heads and recoil them with a microcoil and cotton, when the wick starts tasting funny, usually a few days, you open it up, take out the cotton and give it a dry burn, insert fresh cotton and continue vaping. A microcoil and cotton setup lasts a good amount of time, I am into my 3-4 week with a diy one. If you like it, then you will have many options from there and a wealth of information on this forum.

Hope I have t confused you

well done Mrsmac what a great reply I have watched you grow on this forum and with this reply you have proved you are now a master vaper well done and a big yahoo to mrsmac

[Mrsmac]

thank you ronaldo like one_day said, I am pleased myself as couple of years ago, i was preaching ego batteries with stardusts tanks no matter what anyone here said if i'd listerned then, i would have been much further along now lol

[ronaldo]

we all learn at our own pace but it is nice to see a educated reply like this I enjoyed reading it

[Phoenix .]

Jun 5, 2014 8:42:23 GMT lairey said:

I agree lucymissedtheboat, the Aiflow Control for the protanks makes the world of difference

Phoenix . how old are your batteries now? Definitely summat up if the MVP is only lasting a couple of hours... even chain vaping mine lasts a couple of days.

Got them in May lairey, have contacted vendor who says he will look at them if I send them to him but the cost in postage for 4 MVP's won't be cheap and doubt he will refund postage.
Same with the itazte vv and the Spinner 2.
The fact that it is all of these leaves me to think the problem is mine but what I am doing wrong is beyond me.

[lairey]

Are you charging them from the mains Phoenix . or through your PC/laptop? And when you charge them, you are waiting for the green light to go out to indicate it's fully charged?

[toots]

Well lucymissedtheboat I'm going to input something completely different here to what others are/have suggested. I may get knocked down for this but hey, this is my experience of a brilliant product and maybe, just maybe it could help you out of your sticky situation.

4 months ago I invested in a VTR with an iclear 30s and my whole vaping experience changed 100% for the better. The iclear 30s are dual coil (not bottom coil) and they last for absolutely aaaaages, weeks, when they deteriorate slightly I then soak them overnight in water then run them under the tap with fresh water and let them dry a day or two and they're ready to go for another couple of weeks at least - talk about economical. I now have 6 iclear 30s for the different flavoured juices which I consistently change around throughout the day. They don't leak, flood or gurgle.

I have an aerotank, protank 3 and several mini protank 2's along with a few other different tanks and none of these come anywhere near to the brilliant vape I get from the iclear 30s. I used to swear by bottom coil tanks but now I am completely converted the other way round.

I only use the VTR when at home due to the size and weight of it (which you do get used to very quickly) and I have another couple of set-ups for out and about, but none of these set-ups give me the great vape I get from the VTR with iclear 30s, so when I get back home after being out with an alternative set-up I go back into heavenly mode with my VTR.

Oh and I use only VG juices which are supposed to gunge up coils + sweet dessert type flavours (also a gunger of coils) and these work perfectly fine in the iclear 30s - no problems at all.

Anyway, this is just an account of how the VTR & iclear 30s has changed my vaping experience, if you want to give it a go yourself you might find it works for you too.

Now I wait for everyone to shout me down

[hijack]

lucymissedtheboat  I have found protanks to be a bit leaky and they are prone to flooding a bit. I put this down to the bad quality coils that have been coming from kanger over the last 4-6 months. You can get ''upgraded kanger coils'', I use these in my aerotank without a problem so far.
You will always get a little drop of liquid form on the battery connector with these type of tanks(not the aerotank as its impossible due to its design).

As for coils not lasting, Well with kanger I have already shot them down over quality. But it could be gunk building up on the coil and as Mrsmac has said a ''dry burn'' might bring them back to life. I have found at lower wattage vaping this build-up can happen very quickly.

You said you like low resistance vaping so im guessing your using the 0.8-1.0 sub Ohm coils that they do. I have found these coils less reliable as well. These will tend to die quicker than 2.0 Ohm, but should last longer than 2 days.

Its not just kanger though. I had a new pack of iclear coils and the first 3 out of the pack ended up in the bin after 2 days or less, due to not wicking properly and getting gunked up after 2 days due to me having to vape them at 6 watts.

Edit: toots I also agree 100% the iclear30s I one of the best vapes ive had so far, apart from the bad pack of coils I got. Wiped the floor with the protank2 and as good as the aerotank. Just a pity you cant recoil them as I would have liked to see what they were like with a coil and wick made by me. Maybe they can be recoiled, I might give it a go when im bored one day.

[Phoenix .]

Jun 5, 2014 10:27:13 GMT lairey said:

Are you charging them from the mains Phoenix . or through your PC/laptop? And when you charge them, you are waiting for the green light to go out to indicate it's fully charged?

Wall chargers lairey and yes I do wait until no lights are on, only sometimes charge the itazte via my PC. Thanks for your input.