New Focalecig group buy 4 Nine

[Q]

Actually that's not the point, you should be able to get it out of the box, stick an atty on, a battery inside and vape, you shouldn't have to modify anything

[geordie_vaper]

that is the nature of the beast though with the 4nine its very dependant on the length of your battery and length of the atomizers 510

[tomj777]

Wow - back to the thread after a few hours...
So much info - huge thanks...

What I've learnt so far:

• The top cap is kind of sharp around the edges
• Button topped batteries are advised (elsewhere on the web)
• Used as a hybrid it's not at all bad
• The Derlin insulator on the top cap isn't that well threaded (to much resistance on some attys like Genuine KF3.1 / KFL+ / FT FKL+ clone meaning the insulator tends to unscrew - solution is to screw on top cap and then screw on the insulator
• The 510 post / button which screws into the top cap insulator works really nicely with an Expromiser and perhaps other sprung pin attys when the 510 button and the insulator are both partially unscrewed with a flat top 18500 then the throw is nearly as short as the Fortune Mod
• If the atty doesn't protrude through the insulator on the top cap then you've no right to expect a connection when the button is depressed
• If you have an RDA with a short 510 connector then it will operate with large button throw if you remove the top cap insulator - there are obvious risks....
• It's bloody easy to short
• Next time I / we dive into detail on a Group Buy then, as mrlimbo proposes... new thread

Q if the Atty never ever leaks through the 510 connection then remove the button thingy above and run it as a hybrid
Q regarding the upgraded top cap on Focalecig I notice it has the same #1077 serial number stamped into the button and pictures look identical so I reckon we may well have the upgraded button / top cap in our mits.
Thanks mrlimbo, dagl, geordie_vaper and Cousin Itt

geordie_vaper - If I find I really don't get on with it I'll send it your way and you can pay it forward as feels fitting.

[Q]

Just appeared on Focalecig site, a pair of upgraded top caps for the 4Nine, not sure if this is a new item (it shows as new for 17 June) or if its just the top cap from this without the magnetic button.

[Q]

prr is the only person who can change the title of this thread, perhaps he would like to add 4Nine to the title next time he's on here

[mrlimbo]

Jul 16, 2014 20:47:14 GMT Q said:

Actually that's not the point, you should be able to get it out of the box, stick an atty on, a battery inside and vape, you shouldn't have to modify anything

I agree in principle with you , but in one of the reviews i checked before buying it , it did state you may have to playaround with batts & magns etc to get it how you want it , i just thought it was a cheap way to see if mechs were for me

[tomj777]

Jul 16, 2014 23:51:34 GMT mrlimbo said:

Jul 16, 2014 20:47:14 GMT Q said:

Actually that's not the point, you should be able to get it out of the box, stick an atty on, a battery inside and vape, you shouldn't have to modify anything

I agree in principle with you , but in one of the reviews i checked before buying it , it did state you may have to playaround with batts & magns etc to get it how you want it , i just thought it was a cheap way to see if mechs were for me

I think perhaps a better (kinder) starting point would be a Nemesis, Stingray or Chi You clone.

[osdset]

4nine in brass just arrived from Focalecig ordered as part of a group buy on 2nd July.

Pro's
First impressions are good, the finish isn't bad a few fine scratches that should polish out without problems, the threading on all tubes is done quite well, smooth with no sharp edges. The mod has the new top cap with a threaded delrin insert and a threaded brass centre pin, the copper switch button is weighty enough and the 4nine logo is well defined on the button, it's not an acid etch.
Cons,
Is the central hole in the button meant to be a vent? if so it leads nowhere as the switch magnet is positioned directly above it! I can't find any route for gasses to vent other then the twin holes in the top cap.

I can't comment on how it works yet as I haven't had time to try it out but it looks pretty cool fitted with the UD AGA-TD that also came this morning! Pics to follow.

[tomj777]

And... moving swiftly on, we now find ourselves with a rather nice looking Vanilla 18350 mod with an 18650 tube for roughly a tenner (link).

Description:
Material Copper & Brass
Product Type Mechanical Mod Set
FINISH Brushed
CONNECTION THREADING 510
Other Features Brass Top Cap & Bottom Cap
Adjustable 510 center pin
Copper contacts
Bottom spring-loaded firing switch
Reverse locking ring
Houses single 18350/ 18650 battery (batteries sold separately)
Packing List 1x Vanilla Style 18350 mod
1x 18650 tube

[prr]

Title ammended as requested

[Q]

Jul 17, 2014 11:02:00 GMT tomj777 said:

I think perhaps a better (kinder) starting point would be a Nemesis, Stingray or Chi You clone.

I already have 2x Nemmy's, a Panzer and a Martech QQ so its not my first mod, but it IS by far the worst quality one I've seen yet.

[tomj777]

Sorry Q - you're the victim of my confusion.
I picked up a couple of the replacement top caps from Focalecig - already shipped - if they are an improvement I'll send one over to you (assuming you haven't dumped the mod by then)..

[Q]

Spoke to Doris earlier, the top caps we have ARE the upgraded ones!! the old ones didn't have the 'button' in the middle, the atty poked through to connect

[tomj777]

Jul 17, 2014 16:36:29 GMT Q said:

Spoke to Doris earlier, the top caps we have ARE the upgraded ones!! the old ones didn't have the 'button' in the middle, the atty poked through to connect

Thanks.
Interesting - I've only been able to get it working as a hybrid by removing the button (not even been able to replicate the initial wonderful success with the Expromizer).

[Cousin Itt]

Jul 17, 2014 16:36:29 GMT Q said:

Spoke to Doris earlier, the top caps we have ARE the upgraded ones!! the old ones didn't have the 'button' in the middle, the atty poked through to connect

Maybe thats your trouble then ?
My 4nine is an infinite with the original style top, Worked bang on from day one. I had to use 2 magnets on the battery but they came supplied so it was no hassle. Done a bit of fiddling with it now (shortened the top cap thread, shortened the tube, switched the magnets on the battery for a 6mm x 2mm one) and the result is a .94mm switch throw with the perfect weight . I didn`t really need to faff as it was usable out the box.