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Post by gill2009 on Jul 19, 2014 13:32:52 GMT
Montana have you thought of trying smokerainbow, 1ml samples from loads of juice suppliers for about 50p a throw? +1 for SmokeRainbow
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Post by mybad on Jul 19, 2014 15:28:42 GMT
The daft thing about all this is you may find your ADV at vapefest after many tries at many juices , then in a few months or whatever you may well find your search for that ADV will change again , it happens.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2014 15:36:32 GMT
Do you honestly NEED to have an "allday" vape? I personally think that having a "pick n mix" is more appealing. "Monkey Jizz",Vanilla Custard,Gins Addiction,Lime Zinger,Red Astaire are what I'm swapping between during he day/night.
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Post by Montana on Jul 19, 2014 16:42:28 GMT
I don't think it's a search for an ADV or even having something for a particular time of the day , it's having flavours that I actually like.
I only have two flavours that I could actually like , the others that I've had have either been thrown away , as I thought I wouldn't even subject somebody to that disgusting taste , there hasn't been enough left of a very small sample to pass it on to someone and the rest are sitting on my shelf at home.I put some of them in a sale or trade thread and I had little to no interest and I really don't know what to do with them and there are 10+ of them just sitting there.
Yes I have tried SmokeRainbow , they do have a lot of vendors on there and a lot of flavours , the couple of problems that I have are is a) they don't have the flavours that I'm looking for from a particular vendor and b) they don't have the nicotine level that I'm looking for.For example looking at the list of flavours that I want to try at Vapefest and look at the Mt Baker Vapor flavours I've listed , they only have 2 of the flavours I want to try , both of them only has one nicotine level and not the nicotine level I use.Also they don't have the range of PG/VG ratios either just the one.Don't get me wrong this is not a complaint, as I have ordered from them before and I do continue to look at their site quite often to see what's there.
I think what I'm saying is that I would like a range of flavours , so I can pick a flavour that I feel like at that particular time , I think , lol
Andy
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Post by sirvapalot on Jul 19, 2014 21:10:35 GMT
Another +1 for Smokerainbow here. I order about 30 at a time, I've just placed my 3rd order with them. Out of these I've probably only found 3 or 4 that I've bought again. It saves having hoards of liquids that you're never going to vape and at around 50p a go there's no great loss if you don't like them.
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Post by mrlimbo on Jul 20, 2014 0:33:43 GMT
To be honest id be very happy with two , cant see the problem , stick with those two , then along the way if you find more you like , without paying to try , ie vapefest & trades then Bobs your uncle I sometimes think the huge amount of flavours is the biggest downfall in vaping !
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Post by PinkyPuff on Jul 20, 2014 5:39:12 GMT
I am the same ,use 3 flavours. RY4 on its own or mixed with tiramisu.Honey melon,love it.Hubby make a mix of deluxe tobacco,strawberry and vanilla and is very nice.Do I want to try more flavours?Yes.Right now using hangsen/dekang 1.50 a bottle.Avoid to try out many juices,because I don't want to be hooked to some juice that is incredibly expensive.Looking for few more flavours ,fruity ones.Ordered from Joose Juice to try some fruits+tobacco and still need to wait at least one week to try them out. I think ideal for you will be to start mixing.There is so many recipes out there and I am sure you will be able to find something that you would like.
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Post by Perpetua on Jul 20, 2014 6:57:48 GMT
Yes I have tried SmokeRainbow , they do have a lot of vendors on there and a lot of flavours , the couple of problems that I have are is a) they don't have the flavours that I'm looking for from a particular vendor and b) they don't have the nicotine level that I'm looking for.For example looking at the list of flavours that I want to try at Vapefest and look at the Mt Baker Vapor flavours I've listed , they only have 2 of the flavours I want to try , both of them only has one nicotine level and not the nicotine level I use.Also they don't have the range of PG/VG ratios either just the one.Don't get me wrong this is not a complaint, as I have ordered from them before and I do continue to look at their site quite often to see what's there.
I think for the size of sample you buy from SmokeRainbow, you just have to look at the purchase as being a means to try a flavour, to see if it might be for you or not. Then go on to order your preference from a Vendor, if it is for you. None of the samples I recently bought, were at the strength or ratios I use -I just wanted to test the flavours. Which in my mind anyway, is how their samples ought to be regarded. That's not a criticism of you Montana, but a suggestion of an alternative way of thinking.
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Post by SmokeRainbow on Jul 20, 2014 12:34:41 GMT
Perpetua you perfectly described the mission of Smoke Rainbow. I wouldn't do better We are here just to help with finding suitable flavours... some producers offer different PG/VG ratio or even 100% VG. In that case we go with PG/VG 80/20 or 50/50. If the flavour suits you then choose the preferred PG/VG ratio from producer/vendor. The same is with NIC level. Seems like most people need less then 12mg/ml thus most samples come with middle/low NIC level.
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Post by Montana on Jul 20, 2014 12:57:30 GMT
I think it must be just me but , I have 2 reasons why I try juices at the nicotine level that I would order ,
A) To see if the throat hit is right and that can seem to change with different flavours B) This is more complex but I'll try and explain , when I've tried the same flavour with a lower nicotine level , the flavour seems to be a lot less.I normally (95%) use 18mg strength and when I've tried the next level down ( normally 12mg ) I can hardly taste anything at all, I've tried a tighter draw to wick the juice quicker , a slower draw , increasing the volts or watts , but nothing seems to change the flavour.
I've been told by several vendors that the nicotine level should make NO difference at all as the flavour is the same across the nicotine strengths is the same.
I think the road to me finding more flavours is going to be long and complicated , lol.
Andy
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Post by sammy13 on Jul 20, 2014 17:47:31 GMT
Yes I have tried SmokeRainbow , they do have a lot of vendors on there and a lot of flavours , the couple of problems that I have are is a) they don't have the flavours that I'm looking for from a particular vendor and b) they don't have the nicotine level that I'm looking for.For example looking at the list of flavours that I want to try at Vapefest and look at the Mt Baker Vapor flavours I've listed , they only have 2 of the flavours I want to try , both of them only has one nicotine level and not the nicotine level I use.Also they don't have the range of PG/VG ratios either just the one.Don't get me wrong this is not a complaint, as I have ordered from them before and I do continue to look at their site quite often to see what's there.
I think for the size of sample you buy from SmokeRainbow, you just have to look at the purchase as being a means to try a flavour, to see if it might be for you or not. Then go on to order your preference from a Vendor, if it is for you. None of the samples I recently bought, were at the strength or ratios I use -I just wanted to test the flavours. Which in my mind anyway, is how their samples ought to be regarded. That's not a criticism of you Montana, but a suggestion of an alternative way of thinking. I agree with this totally, plus 1ml is never going to tell anyone if they are going to want to vape it day in day out. As much as I love the fact that a vendor is doing this , I can try a liquid think it is awful and would never ever go back, but also I can try a liquid thing mmmm this is nice but by the second fill thing ok not so good. I think this is down to your tastebuds at the timeif you suddenly try absinthe you may think wow, but try to vape 2 tanks of it and you may think this is not for me.
I personally would like to see 2 or 3 ml samples so at least we can get a tank out of them, not just the initial wow or god.
If I had a shop I would give 2ml samples away with every order, it is enough for someone to make their mind up, and I believe would be popular.
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Post by Perpetua on Jul 20, 2014 17:53:55 GMT
If I had a shop I would give 2ml samples away with every order, it is enough for someone to make their mind up, and I believe would be popular.
Which is exactly what I bought from SmokeRainbow Sammy . . . 2 of each of their packs. As that's also my thinking - that 2ml will give me a better idea of the flavour.
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Post by Montana on Jul 20, 2014 18:46:56 GMT
I think what sammy13 is getting at is , why don't they do an option to do 2ml samples as well as one.A 2ml sample would be slightly cheaper as packaging would be less and it would be the best option for those of us that use tanks to test our flavours with , and if you drip as well, there would be enough to drip a little as well. The best of both worlds really, maybe something that SmokeRainbow could seriously consider.
Also sammy13 said about the WOW or YUK reaction is spot on.Dripping is totally different from using a tank, I think most of us use a tank most of the time for ease of use. So having a larger sample would let us see realistically what the flavour was going to be like.
I know it must be difficult for SmokeRainbow to decide what flavours and strengths to have , but could they just get the highest strength of the liquid and then they could lower the strength their end with PG or VG to the strength requested , OR ask the vendors they get the flavours from to give them concentrates if they were available ? Just a thought.I know that every E-Juice vendor won't do that but it's worth a try as it is advertising the E-Juice vendors liquids and the people liking a juice that they got from SmokeRainbow will probably go straight to the vendors page and buy direct from them.
I guess what I'm saying is if the E-Juice vendors and SmokeRainbow got together and sorted the logistics together it could be massive.For example if I found a flavour I really liked you could go back to the SmokeRainbow site click a link direct to the E-Juice vendors site buy a bottle, giving both sites advertising , AND the E-Juice vendors could have a link to SmokeRainbow to see if you like it try it here, and it's a minimum investment.
One thing that I would like to see from SmokeRainbow is samples of juices that aren't readily available
I think that most of what I've said is just being hopeful, but maybe it could work.You lot decide if it is a good idea.
Andy
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Post by sammy13 on Jul 20, 2014 18:51:34 GMT
I think what sammy13 is getting at is , why don't they do an option to do 2ml samples as well as one.A 2ml sample would be slightly cheaper as packaging would be less and it would be the best option for those of us that use tanks to test our flavours with , and if you drip as well, there would be enough to drip a little as well. The best of both worlds really, maybe something that SmokeRainbow could seriously consider.
Also sammy13 said about the WOW or YUK reaction is spot on.Dripping is totally different from using a tank, I think most of us use a tank most of the time for ease of use. So having a larger sample would let us see realistically what the flavour was going to be like.
I know it must be difficult for SmokeRainbow to decide what flavours and strengths to have , but could they just get the highest strength of the liquid and then they could lower the strength their end with PG or VG to the strength requested , OR ask the vendors they get the flavours from to give them concentrates if they were available ? Just a thought.I know that every E-Juice vendor won't do that but it's worth a try as it is advertising the E-Juice vendors liquids and the people liking a juice that they got from SmokeRainbow will probably go straight to the vendors page and buy direct from them.
I guess what I'm saying is if the E-Juice vendors and SmokeRainbow got together and sorted the logistics together it could be massive.For example if I found a flavour I really liked you could go back to the SmokeRainbow site click a link direct to the E-Juice vendors site buy a bottle, giving both sites advertising , AND the E-Juice vendors could have a link to SmokeRainbow to see if you like it try it here, and it's a minimum investment.
One thing that I would like to see from SmokeRainbow is samples of juices that aren't readily available
I think that most of what I've said is just being hopeful, but maybe it could work.You lot decide if it is a good idea.
Andy
Spot on, I would also like the samples to be samples of juices that are readily available in the uk.
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Post by geordie_vaper on Jul 20, 2014 18:53:33 GMT
i would like them to pop a £20 note inside the jiffy bag aswell
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