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Post by flavourtank on Sept 28, 2014 12:30:37 GMT
Hi
Just saw a 18350 video posted.
It got me looking at these hybrid creations and theres some I like.
What are your views on them??
I suppose depending on what one you get, you can use it as a test juice device..
Thanks
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Post by Ripshod on Sept 28, 2014 12:35:01 GMT
Main concern for me, given that it's an 18350 would be battery life. Of course Todd covered this by not using anything lower than 1.5ohms, but the way I vape I'd need to have spare batteries on me at all times (at least 2). Having said that, if they keep the brushed finish for the final release then my oh my, what a gorgeous vape to have on a night out!!
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Post by markm on Sept 28, 2014 12:41:04 GMT
Hybrid normally just means the way the battery tube and atomiser connect - when the term was first used it meant there was no connection, ie the tube and atomiser were a single piece of metal. These days its generally used to describe larger (not 510) type connections. So almost all rebuildables can get called hybrids in some configuration. The current use of the term has become almost meaningless, so it might be better to be more specific.
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Post by chrisintheuk on Sept 28, 2014 12:56:17 GMT
18350 are never going to last you all day but I always have spare batts in the car anyway so its not a big deal for me & if you are on a night out an 18350 will last the night plus don't forget you can not go below 8omhs coils anyway as you will be pushing the battery to its limit so if you stick to around 1.2 you will be fine and what a beautiful mod that Axiom Hybrid is and with the kayfun build type how easy will that be to set you - Certainly think I will get one
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Post by flavourtank on Sept 28, 2014 13:01:59 GMT
Hybrid normally just means the way the battery tube and atomiser connect - when the term was first used it meant there was no connection, ie the tube and atomiser were a single piece of metal. These days its generally used to describe larger (not 510) type connections. So almost all rebuildables can get called hybrids in some configuration. The current use of the term has become almost meaningless, so it might be better to be more specific. Was liking this As far as I have read the hybrid was just tube and atty but atty not changeable. Didnt know they have a bigger 510 fitting
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Post by flavourtank on Sept 28, 2014 13:03:37 GMT
18350 are never going to last you all day but I always have spare batts in the car anyway so its not a big deal for me & if you are on a night out an 18350 will last the night plus don't forget you can not go below 8omhs coils anyway as you will be pushing the battery to its limit so if you stick to around 1.2 you will be fine and what a beautiful mod that Axiom Hybrid is and with the kayfun build type how easy will that be to set you - Certainly think I will get one the axiom hybrid is a very good looking mod, I cant comment about the kayfun setup as ive never had one
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Post by VapingBad on Sept 28, 2014 13:27:21 GMT
The AXIOM Hybrid looks very nice and well made, but not sure about lack of locking, one piece chimney and nothing more than an o'ring holding the tank on.
My main concern with hybrid mods like the 49 (not all in one like this thread is about) is poor understanding of the connection requirements among new users. If the positive connection the atty is not sitting proud of the negative and can be pushed in so it is you can create a high current short and toast your battery or worse.
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Post by flavourtank on Sept 28, 2014 13:37:42 GMT
obviously theres pro's and con's will all things shiny. would you say its worth getting one?? its just like a mech with permanent atty stuck on.
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Post by VapingBad on Sept 28, 2014 15:32:07 GMT
If your absolute priority is to have a 75 mm high (very small, probably 20-25 mm shorter than a short mech & nano) that vapes like a kayfun and you can afford it and are careful how put it in pocket so as not pull the tank off or activate the fire button then it looks lovely IMO. I have a clone set up with nano kit and small top cap on an Astro and that is 97 mm without the drip tip and is lovely and pocketable, good vape 1.5 ? plus with a couple of hours battery life, some people may get 4-5 hours out of it.
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Post by Griff on Sept 28, 2014 15:54:02 GMT
flavourtank the Armada is a nice hybrid mod, which has two tubes...18500 and 18350. Griff
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Post by flavourtank on Sept 28, 2014 15:56:54 GMT
flavourtank the Armada is a nice hybrid mod, which has two tubes...18500 and 18350. Griff that is a nice looking hybrid, was just getting general feedback about hybrids as never thought about them until a video popped up lol
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Post by leo on Sept 28, 2014 16:02:28 GMT
Not sure if this counts as proper hybrid, but it's very pocket friendly. Do need about 3x batts to get through a shift at work though:
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Post by Montana on Sept 28, 2014 19:38:52 GMT
There are now differing thoughts on the term "Hybrid" and what I thought a Hybrid was , was a VV/VW device that could also be a mech or vice versa , and that made sense to me.As far as I can see there are very few ( that I've found ) and I'm disappointed about that.What it did lead me to and after reading this thread so far was to have industry standard terms for devices, as one person thinks one thing and another thinks something else and it all comes a bit of a mess.
So I would like to put it to you that I would like to name ( tongue-in-cheek ) what I thought a hybrid was a "Vari-Mech" , that should tell everyone what it is and there would be no confusion. I know I'm having a little bit of a giggle with this , but industry names and standards helps everyone , we have ego threading, 510 , popular battery sizes etc etc etc.So having standard names for devices that are not the norm or run of the mill would also help , especially to me that is looking in the next 3-4 months at getting a mech and an RTA ( well at least I think something like a Kayfun is an RTA ?? Someone here would be able to tell me better ) as I'm new-ish to vaping as I've only just gone over the 4 month goal.
What do you think ?
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Post by VapingBad on Sept 29, 2014 1:20:10 GMT
Hybrid started out as the atty being integral part of the mod, but has expanded to a mod that has no positive pin in the 510.
De-facto standards are emerging and it's seem like video tape in that the most available will win rather than the best. A much beefier atty connection (15 mm - 18 mm diameter say) that is not too tall would be a good thing for a start, but the way the market is it probably won't happen. Zen tried to start a sort of open source system for tube mods (used on the ZNA).
I think the hybrid the thread about stands out as it is a kayfun style atty so makes sense with an 18350, most hybrids have been genesises and more recently drippers which are both more power hungry.
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Post by enjay on Sept 29, 2014 3:52:59 GMT
I like my hybrids but generally stay in the 18650 area because of the low ohms I vape, look nice though The 18350's are safe down to 0.7 usually but they really wont last long at all down there, look dinky mind
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