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Post by jmw2309 on Oct 15, 2014 11:44:32 GMT
Is it acceptable to make up a large batch of custard (250ml) in a basic form and just to then add any extra flavourings ie. Fruits/biscuits etc as an when required? I am loathed to make 10ml at a time of new mixes as if I like them there is not enough and if I don't it is a waste. Does anyone else do this?
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Post by Tom on Oct 15, 2014 11:47:19 GMT
I've been making 5ml testers.
If i like like them I make 50ml+ at a time from then on.
I'm going to have a rethink on this CLC stuff though. Because of the steep time I need to be a bit smarter.
Maybe making 100ml a month and creating a decent back stash.
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Post by smifee on Oct 15, 2014 12:02:27 GMT
jmw2309 that's what I'm doing but the jury is still out. The idea was to avoid the long steeping times when I wanted to make a new custard flavour. I'm still not sure if it works though. I've added strawberry, banana & rhubarb to a steeped custard base. After a couple of days the smell was there but the flavour seemed weaker. After a week it was slightly better. Still a work in progress.
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Post by Marcus on Oct 15, 2014 12:08:56 GMT
I don't see why you couldn't. At the moment I buy my juice in at 600ml at a time (6 x 100ml)and leave it standing for up to 2 weeks. I am wanting to start mixing soon with the plan to make some small 5/10ml samples of a specific recipe, get it how I want it then make up a litre or two to steep. If you have your Base flavours steeped already then add the accent notes on top I think that's a pretty good idea.. Means you can have a play as well as you know the Base is always going to taste the same so can experiment with small 5ml batches etc which will be a lot easier. My plan is to mix maybe every 2 weeks regardless of how much I've used, that way I can start to build up a small reserve that when it comes to using it will be well steeped, then the next bottles I use have been steeped for the same time as well so should be consistent. Hope that makes sense
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Post by lairey on Oct 15, 2014 12:13:46 GMT
You're still going to need to steep once you add the new flavour, but if you know you're going to want to experiment with, for instance, 8% of an additional flavour, then just add the 8% into the recipe for a 100ml mix, for example, then mix excluding the 8%. Then you can make 10 different 10ml samples with 8% of something different in each. However, some flavours you add will have different qualities. For instance, strawberry would be much sweeter than hazelnut, so ideally you would probably want to cut down on the sweetener in the strawberry mix. It would work to a certain point, but wouldn't allow you to tweak the ingredients based on what you're adding to it, therefore you wouldn't get the best out of the mixes IMO.
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Post by jmw2309 on Oct 15, 2014 14:14:50 GMT
So just make 250ml of custard and be done with it then!
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Post by ruffdog on Oct 15, 2014 14:20:38 GMT
I would bud. well maybe.
i made 100ml on the 10th and soniced it for about 3 hours. I'll now make another 100ml this weekend and will have some stockpiled then. Then i might start experimenting with some other flavors. I just wanted some nice custard ADV sitting there. if you leave 5% out then you have 5% to play with. but in the grand scheme of things i bet if you just use some of your steeped base and added 5% on top it isn't going to adjust your nic / pg level too much playing with 5 / 10 ml at a time. JUST DONT MIX ORANGE AT 10% I told you before lol.
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Post by prowler on Oct 15, 2014 19:15:47 GMT
jmw2309If you're going down that route you may want to remember this formula. flavour % times 100 divided by total flavour % = , for instance.. Vanilla custard = 25*100/33 = 75.75 Vanilla Deluxe = 6*100/33 = 18.18 Sweetener = 1*100/33 = 3.03 Vanillin = 1*100/33 = 3.03 So, if you had mixed all the above as stand-alones the %'s above could be used instead.
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Post by leo on Oct 15, 2014 19:19:48 GMT
I mix 200ml of Caramel Blend, as it's my adv, and adding a bit of CB improves any mediocre juice. I wouldn't mix that much of anything else though.
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Post by jmw2309 on Oct 15, 2014 20:21:25 GMT
Sorry to be a div prowler but I am not sure what that calculation is for....I usually just work out how many ml I need for 10ml and multiply that amount depending on overall amount I am making, or is that what your calculation is So for above recipe to make 250ml I would need 62.5ml vanilla custard 15 ml FVD 2.5ML sweetener 2.5ml vanillin I think I am missing something? EDIT sorry I am a div and see what that is for now. Not 100% sure if I need to use it though?
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Post by prowler on Oct 15, 2014 20:40:14 GMT
Sorry to be a div prowler but I am not sure what that calculation is for. I didn't explain correctly then. It's just a way of making up mixes using stand-alones instead of multi-flavours. You mix and steep each ingredient then mix at the %'s quoted above. I'm not explaining this very well, maybe someone else can help.
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Post by jcol on Oct 15, 2014 21:46:23 GMT
I often make large batches of Custard then will decant some for other mixes. Eg. i will take out 100ml of VC when its 4 weeks old and then add Rhubarb etc... to it and leave it another week or two to steep, Usually works perfect for me
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