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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 0:05:07 GMT
Don't assume everyone else will copy evolve method. Onwards and upwards. imagine evolves faces if they get trumped You wont want to see mine if they do after all shelling out ive done recently
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Post by Greg on Jan 4, 2015 0:07:39 GMT
Don't assume everyone else will copy evolve method. Onwards and upwards. imagine evolves faces if they get trumped You wont want to see mine if they do after all shelling out ive done recently Ill be sympathetic I promise
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 4, 2015 0:09:48 GMT
Doh, not platinum its too conductive and expensive, I meant titanium may be a goer but can't find the coefficient for it table (found a better one). Silver is very close to the accuracy of nickel, so are iron and mild steel, but don't fancy coiling with them.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 0:09:48 GMT
You wont want to see mine if they do after all shelling out ive done recently Ill be sympathetic I promise So i see
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 4, 2015 0:12:51 GMT
Ive just read that its to do with the resistance changing in nickel as it heats, but this dont happen in kanthal. Is that right VapingBadAlmost, Kanthal changes but far less it is a trade name rathar than ageneric alloy so don't know how much and would think that it is more stable than nichrome so even less then one thirtieth as accurate as nickel.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 4, 2015 0:15:28 GMT
Think of the wire like litmus paper you used in chemistry in school you need the contrast to be able to read it.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 2:18:24 GMT
With sensors in your top cap maybe, but via the 510 only nickel and platinum are practical. That's the way forward,monitor the temp of the juice not the coil, that's what we are inhaling, the 510 needs to go, coil and wick too IMHO. Guess they was limited with the 510 connection.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 2:23:38 GMT
Let's see what Provape come up with, should be relatively soon. If provape don't change the board on the maybe temp control "upgrade" then they had temp control running months ago IMHO. That's why i bailed bought the shark, only took me buying 3 to get one to work though...
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Post by Greg on Jan 4, 2015 2:37:15 GMT
Let's see what Provape come up with, should be relatively soon. If provape don't change the board on the maybe temp control "upgrade" then they had temp control running months ago IMHO. That's why i bailed bought the shark, only took me buying 3 to get one to work though... That's the difference, evolve rush to be first. Provape take their time and perfect it before release.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 4:04:08 GMT
The usual minimum order coming into play. How many times have our Chinese friends pulled that stunt. So robby, you would need nine others to take the chance that our Shenzen friends ain't being economical with the truth ? On the basis of the information and guide that VapingBad has provided, it would seem they've made the impossible a reality. If the price was right I'd probably give it a try. But I get the feeling, even from China, it might not be that cheap.
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Post by robby on Jan 4, 2015 8:37:38 GMT
I dont regard it as an "impossible" striker42, they are touting it as better than Evolv for the very reason that they claim it will work with any coil. It can only be "current sensing" that they are using, there isn`t anything else to work with really unless they have some other sort of inline electronic measurement. I told them I couldn`t possibly go with something so radical with a quantity of 10. It would HAVE to be tested first with a quantity of two. I haven`t heard back from them yet, but it wouldn`t surprise me if at all if they came back with a quote for two. It`s happened before
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Post by Deleted on Jan 4, 2015 9:03:49 GMT
If it's what they say it is, you'd think they'd be happy just to get it out on the street whether its 1,10 or 100. You must be well enough known in Chinese shopping circles now robby, for them to know if it's worth getting you're gonna recommend it to a wider audience.
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Post by robby on Jan 4, 2015 9:06:47 GMT
NOTHING would surprise me while negotiating with China They know people want this and want to be first with it so they will try and flog as many as they can before other sellers can offer the same thing for less
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Post by robby on Jan 4, 2015 9:10:10 GMT
v.youku.com/v_show/id_XODUxMjY2ODI4.htmlChinese video on DNA40 with usual nickel wire from another supplier. The guy speaks English well but the video isn`t conclusive. You will see my comment at the top. Wait for the ads, adblockers will stop the vid working.
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Post by Phoenix . on Jan 4, 2015 9:34:47 GMT
No way, each alloy has a different temperature coefficient of resistance and Nickel is much lower than other alloys used for coils so more accurate. Nickel is 30 times more temp sensitive than Nichrome, the DNA40 is +/- 10 F so with nichrome you would expect accuracies of +/- 300 F Thats just what I was going to say vapingbad.
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