Evolve DNA 40 clone temp control - first look :)

[robby]

Excellent post tpat591

[tchavei]

All graphs are referring to the dna 40

[robby]

Mar 23, 2015 9:55:59 GMT tchavei said:

All graphs are referring to the dna 40

The top two pics are of the Kangxin DNA40 clone and the Evolve DNA40 ?  Same with the bottom pair of pics.

[tpat591]

3 pics: 1) DNA40 vs KX-40D Wet Coil 2) DNA40 vs KX-40D Dry Coil 3) DNA40 vs KX-40D Test Results & Specs

All taken directly from the 2 videos listed.  Sorry thought that was clearly identified.

[robby]

At the end of the vid he also shows SMOK`s ....ahem.... temp control FAIL

[Ripshod]

Mar 23, 2015 11:06:48 GMT robby said:

At the end of the vid he also shows SMOK`s ....ahem.... temp control FAIL

I'm on mifi robby, so no youtube. Any chance we could see that Smok FAIL? In the M80 thread of course.

[robby]

Mar 23, 2015 11:07:56 GMT Ripshod said:

Mar 23, 2015 11:06:48 GMT robby said:

At the end of the vid he also shows SMOK`s ....ahem.... temp control FAIL

I'm on mifi robby, so no youtube. Any chance we could see that Smok FAIL? In the M80 thread of course.

I`ll have a go

[tpat591]

Mar 23, 2015 16:07:25 GMT tpat591 said:

Mar 12, 2015 14:58:30 GMT tpat591 said:

Just to Clarify about the newest versions of the Vapor Flasks on 3FVape Models #:2806/2834

As per 3FVape: 2806/2834 share the same chip with 1660/2101 made by Kangxin, you will see different open-screen message though. To be specific, you may see "KX-40D" which is from Kangxin, "DNA40" or nothing, which are from Sunlay. They customized those in chip, which is quite easy.  We tested 2806/2834 Versoin 3 for one week before we ship. Our products experts used those mods very heavily everyday. I also joined the activity to be a heavy vaper.

the center pin however is fixed, solid, doesn't move.  When asked if it could be upgraded to a floating spring loaded pin, the reply was:  We have talked to Kangxin and Sunlay regarding that though. Unfortunately, they don't have plans to move yet.

It is possible that 3FVape had given me some bad information with regard to the Waidea Times Vapor Flask 1:1 units having the same chip as the Kangxin.  Summer from Waidea had told me they developed their own chip from scratch as the Kangxin chips were too expensive to include as Kangxin did not want to sell their market edge to Waidea.  Nicole Leah is being sent a demonstration flask by Waidea to review for the community so it is recommended to wait for her review so we can get more information on this device.

Preliminary reports surfacing from some people who have received these units include 1 or 2 dying after two days (may be same person twice) and two with extreme connectivity issues in reading NI200 coils (which may be inexperience in NI200 builds) so it may be prudent to wait for more positive reviews to come in before considering a purchase.

[robby]

Casnt really blame Kangxin for not selling the chips cheaply, they definitely work and work well

[tpat591]

They were developed using Evolv Patented Technlogy according to Spec Sheet

I did think I would see a greater preheat voltage in those traces I posted earlier both for the KX-40D & especially the Evolv DNA40.  That was surprising!

[robby]

Mar 23, 2015 17:04:57 GMT tpat591 said:

They were developed using Evolv Patented Technlogy according to Spec Sheet

That`s a bit of a giveaway lol, can see a lawsuit being raised any minute lolol

[tpat591]

Mar 23, 2015 17:08:36 GMT robby said:

Mar 23, 2015 17:04:57 GMT tpat591 said:

They were developed using Evolv Patented Technlogy according to Spec Sheet

That`s a bit of a giveaway lol, can see a lawsuit being raised any minute lolol

Not if it was legitimately licensed.

[tchavei]

Mar 23, 2015 17:29:51 GMT tpat591 said:

Mar 23, 2015 17:08:36 GMT robby said:

That`s a bit of a giveaway lol, can see a lawsuit being raised any minute lolol

Not if it was legitimately licensed.

Smart move if they did. Better to make 5 bucks royalties per unit than having it cloned and get nothing.

[tpat591]

You saw those traces. No way it could be that spot on if it was developed independently. Evolv will never admit it, but they had to be responsible.

[Ripshod]

There was a reason evolv went to China. I wonder if I can get a licence