Cloupor mini explodes!!

[Ripshod]

Double post!!

[decoy]

I took it apart because im nosey
its still working fine
it seems there is 2 stages of glue being used the yellow to hold the board in and the white to hold the cover on
they seemed to of tryied to fill most of it up with the white glue wich is now removed from the problem aria as it came off with the cover at the bottom
both glues are rubbery the yellow less so than the white
the 510 is soldered to the board

thats the vid that i had seen with the dna in it .Might not be the best job but it shows it can be done but the big question is is it worth it lol

[Ripshod]

I'd be tempted to remove all that white hot-melt decoy. Just tack the cover back on with a dab of sugro or superglue.

Now I know there's 2 different glues in there things are looking a little different. See if you can get a bit of the hot-melt to burn. Obviously it'll melt first.

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decoy that's yours? New board?

Ripshod what you thinking?,the glue getting hot a melting/burning or the glue getting hot melting and moving something on the board thus causing a short?

edit...kinda both been answered..! 

[Ripshod]

@letsavit I want to eliminate stuff, the hot-melt is a good candidate, if it will burn.

I can't see it being conductive so if it did melt it wouldn't have shorted anything.

I'm looking at it being a fuel.

To have a protective cover held in with stuff that melts when heated is frankly irresponsible!!

[decoy]

Will try and dig out some of the yellow stuff as i want to see if it is thermosetting i know the white stuff isnt and ive got all of it out round the problem aria
im going to have a play when i gets up(works night shift funny what that spells if you leave the f out lol)
One thing im going to try is a sub ohm dripper with the cover off and the lights out to see if anything gets hot in the mod
I might still go for fitting a dna if i can talk myself in to it but rhe fat daddy is gona be a bupgger to fit(and my box is golden under the black paint so willl have a srach about in batt bay and see what its made off(can see some polishing ahead lol)

[phtumshk]

I dont know the flash point of hot glue but ive managed to get some on the end of a soldering iron and it does get a wee bit smokey very quickly.

[VapingBad]

Jan 27, 2015 9:55:24 GMT decoy said:

I took it apart because im nosey
its still working fine
it seems there is 2 stages of glue being used the yellow to hold the board in and the white to hold the cover on
they seemed to of tryied to fill most of it up with the white glue wich is now removed from the problem aria as it came off with the cover at the bottom
both glues are rubbery the yellow less so than the white
the 510 is soldered to the board

thats the vid that i had seen with the dna in it .Might not be the best job but it shows it can be done but the big question is is it worth it lol

My one arrived today and is the same, I do notice there is no glue on the button side of the board.  The white glue doesn't even stick well to the amber glue.

Ripshod
The white glue lights easily with a cigarette lighter, but not the amber.

[VapingBad]

The amber glue burns in a hotter (jet lighter) flame, but goes out as soon as the flame removed. I did have a few vapes at 30 W and worked fine, but took the battery straight out after.

I have damaged the +ve battery wire so do I replace it or fit a DNA at some time in the distant future

[Ripshod]

Without doubt a DNA40 in the future VapingBad. The question I have now is will there be space for the usb charging board in there as well? I suspect there is.

If this really is Cloupor's last attempt to rescue themselves then I think we should say goodbye before it's too late. More a lame duck than a swansong.

It's sad to see a manufacturer go down the pan like this but they've done it to themselves.

Back to the glue issue. Think that white hot-melt should be removed Stat. Sugro, superglue, or araldite are more suitable alternatives, won't need a massive blob either.

[phtumshk]

All my home builds are held in with hot glue, other than a faulty charge board going thermo nuke on a FT DNA 20 mini build theyve been fairly stable.
Need to investigate sugru for future use.

[Ripshod]

phtumshk not all hot-melt glues are that flammable. I know any I use at work have to be self-extinguishing - remove the flame and they go out. I think that policy wouid be common to most firms that use it.

The other way they failed here is to use it to hold the plastic cover on. That cover is supposed to be flame resistant (not flame proof), to give a layer of time limited protection to the user. How good is that if the glue melts and it just drops off?

Design flaw? Or just building to a budget?

On reddit for the past 24hrs: www.reddit.com/r/electronic_cigarette/comments/2touxi/warning_cloupor_mini_has_literally_just_become/

Why, oh WHY, are they still focussing on the charging? That was poo-pooed a while ago now. AAE-C is more up to speed on this than anywhere it seems (even beating Cloupor)

[VapingBad]

Jan 27, 2015 15:02:33 GMT Ripshod said:

Why, oh WHY, are they still focussing on the charging? That was poo-pooed a while ago now. AAE-C is more up to speed on this than anywhere it seems (even beating Cloupor)

Grumpy Vaper still hasn't changed the misleading title of his blog post "WARNING – Cloupor Mini May have Serious Charging Safety Issues" despite updating it after I told him he should 17:30 yesterday, I know most "new meida" has sod all to do with journalism or research, but they should at least check the evidence and apply common sense before copy and pasting

[whiteshep]

It will not be financial considerations that stop cloupor doing a recall it will be the founding attitude of the company they have a history of abandoning customers and moving onto the next poorly implemented project. P bursado got a response from them quite an achievement as normally blood flows from stones before you get life out of cloupor. I really do hope they go under they are exactly the sort of company that will do harm to vaping the sooner they go the better its not as though we have a shortage of company's now also making decent looking and safe devices.

[Ripshod]

From what I've read, this was Cloupor's last attempt to stay afloat. They just don't have the money to do a recall, and after this farce they'll never be able to earn any more from us.

Ironic this has hardly been mentioned on a certain US forum. Also ironic is the similar fault on the first and second Cloupor Hana clone. In that case it was an IC going crital and burning out. I'm feeling this is the same issue with the Mine.

But why in standby? That's the only thing that doesn't fit the historic pattern.