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Post by Bob on Jan 27, 2015 16:45:30 GMT
What you mean vaping? Layman terms please....! Im just vaping at my higher end of watts and chaining a bit more than usual. Edit; yes if it went it would go to the AAEC test team...... We want to know why they catch fire on their own, at least half we have heard about were while it was not being used so if you just keep firing it at max watts until it fails it could be a different part that failed, it could be the same but you would have to compare to one that self destructed to know. Ah! but those not being used may well have been hammered at their extremes prior to them being put down - There has so far only been 1 report on how it was being used and that was the one where he swapped an Atlantis out for a Mini Nautilus - Personally I still think they cannot handle 0.5 ohms at 30w and that is what is causing the melt downs, until someone comes up with an autopsy on some of the failures.
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Post by Ripshod on Jan 27, 2015 16:53:37 GMT
She was vaping at 15watts with a 1.8ohm coil (and we know a PTM3 won't be vapable at 30) I'd hardly call that 'hammering it'
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Post by Bob on Jan 27, 2015 17:04:38 GMT
She was vaping at 15watts with a 1.8ohm coil (and we know a PTM3 won't be vapable at 30) I'd hardly call that 'hammering it' Must have missed that one, have since seen the pic that decoy put up as well - was trying to catch up.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:01:04 GMT
I want to put some balance back...... Let me say safety comes first, that goes without saying I know but I thought I would...!
I don't want to see clouper go under, I want to see them sort this. Ok I haven't been vaping for long but have spent more on vaping equipment than I dare add up. The clouper mini for my money(£22) when it turned was the best value mod I have purchased IMHO. Really nice mod, removal battery with easy access, nice in hand, adjustable 510, 30watts, sub ohms.......even a nice retractable usb lead, box and some spares. Mine was/still is (I assume) working great.
Now I had a £150 vapor shark that would self fire for how long as it so chose. I also googled this at the time and found another couple of cases. That device would of self fired until the cotton on the atty set alight or I assume would of overheated and done much the same as this clouper. Now I still have the video if Mr PB wants to email it to vapour shark to request a recall?
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Post by whiteshep on Jan 27, 2015 23:32:05 GMT
My desire for cloupor to go under is based on experience with them and you don't need to search hard to find numerous horror stories. They produce decent looking mods (T5 aside) but skimp on safety and these days there is absolutely no reason to support a company like cloupor with all the alternatives. They are also well known for giving zero support to customers and abandoning products where problems arise leaving customers out of pocket. I can't actually think of a single practical reason why I wouldn't want them to sink without trace.
I'm glad yours is still working OK letsavit just bear in mind it might be fine for months and then go sadly their bad products don't always go at the start so please be careful and stay safe as that's the main thing with this or any product.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 27, 2015 23:47:51 GMT
My desire for cloupor to go under is based on experience with them and you don't need to search hard to find numerous horror stories. They produce decent looking mods (T5 aside) but skimp on safety and these days there is absolutely no reason to support a company like cloupor with all the alternatives. They are also well known for giving zero support to customers and abandoning products where problems arise leaving customers out of pocket. I can't actually think of a single practical reason why I wouldn't want them to sink without trace. I'm glad yours is still working OK letsavit just bear in mind it might be fine for months and then go sadly their bad products don't always go at the start so please be careful and stay safe as that's the main thing with this or any product. Do agree and I'm not using mine so that's £22 for nothing...... thought I would just try to put some balance back that others are not perfect on thier OC either, based on my short experience. Also highlight the price paid as their margin doesn't leave a lot of money for customer support, if it wasn't a safety issue and they was just going wrong then thats 7no. I could buy to one shark....in hindsight I bett clouper wished they charged a little more and invested in better OC....... but you're right, business is business and another will step in, eleaf seem more than capable of making good value for money mods that are safe, hence they seem to be growing rapidly and cloupers hole may well be too deep now...
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Post by decoy on Jan 28, 2015 0:48:22 GMT
well there is no more white hot glue in mine i tryed it with my finger in there and it did get warm in the prob aria so im going to keep on using it and that white stuff once ignited burns on its own defo not good i think anyone who has one should try and do the same removing of the white glue spesh round the bottom
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 0:51:38 GMT
So as it stands now;
You guys are thinking it gets hot (normal with use) but the glue is substandard and could ignite?
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Post by decoy on Jan 28, 2015 1:05:27 GMT
the glue once ignited continues to burn on its own until you blow it out this is a fubar
so what might be happening is peps are using shyt batts running high power or doing the above whilst charging im guessing that some of them have more glue in than other,s and as such less cooling causing the chip to get hot nuff to set fire to the glue which will slow burn for ages i could be talking bollocks but it makes seance to me and seems like a good possibility
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Post by Deleted on Jan 28, 2015 1:21:37 GMT
It's "bolloxs" that makes sense to me as well mate... Heat needs to disperse, putting something that can ignite over it is never a good idea....! And as you said a person plonking some glue in there no two are going to be the same. Listening to you Vaping and rip I think my white glue is coming out and I'll start using again. Battery removed for now when I have the kids over. Did you apply any heat to remove the glue, hairdryer, Or just pick it out?
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Post by decoy on Jan 28, 2015 1:37:51 GMT
It's "bolloxs" that makes sense to me as well mate... Heat needs to disperse, putting something that can ignite over it is never a good idea....! And as you said a person plonking some glue in there no two are going to be the same. Listening to you Vaping and rip I think my white glue is coming out and I'll start using again. Battery removed for now when I have the kids over. Did you apply any heat to remove the glue, hairdryer, Or just pick it out? i was lucky most of the stuff at the bottom came off when i took the cover off the stuff near the 510 was a little more tricky i slid a Stanley knife blade between the glue and batt box and used needle nose pliers to pull it out buy grabbing/pinching the top of it just take it gentle and tbh idd onlt bother with the bit near the usb
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Jan 28, 2015 8:46:49 GMT
After reading this thread i have given CC my vaporshark and i will run the cloupor alongside my xpro at least then if somethung does go wrong i know what i doing where as CC doesnt.
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Post by markm on Jan 28, 2015 10:27:15 GMT
Has anyone raised this with ECCA, someone with an affected mod? I would have expected to see something from them by now.
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Post by Roscopecotrain on Jan 28, 2015 10:29:47 GMT
well there is no more white hot glue in mine i tryed it with my finger in there and it did get warm in the prob aria so im going to keep on using it and that white stuff once ignited burns on its own defo not good i think anyone who has one should try and do the same removing of the white glue spesh round the bottom Is it easy to get in there decoy? How did you get the white glue out? Just seen your post above on how you did it.
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Post by VapingBad on Jan 28, 2015 12:54:43 GMT
I think the flammable white glue is not the problem, it just adds flue to the fire not starts it, but I can't "know" for certain. markm I'm sure ECITA know, they were in the loop on the mech with poor venting.
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