Carto Tanks Vs Juices

[Gordy]

there is a bit of fear and confusion surrounding which juices are safe to use in cartomiser tanks as it has been documented that some will reacting with the tubes causing them to disintegrate or crack.

so the point of this thread is to get together a list of safe and unsafe juices that is more aimed at UK

please post with lists of juices and your experiences with them being used in a carto tank. i will then update this first post to get a comprehensive list


SAFE

Dekang RY Hi5
Dekang RY4 Tobacco
Dekang Flu Cured

Freedom Vape Cappuccino
Freedom Vape Caramel
Freedom Vape RY4
Freedom Vape Strawberry

Grizwalds Cocomel
Grizwalds Toffee Popcorn
Grizwalds Whiskey Cream

Hangsen Butterscotch
Hangsen Caramel
Hangsen Cotton Candy
Hangsen HS Impulse
Hangsen RY4
Hangsen Virginia

Paradise Vape Banana
Paradise Vape Cappuccino
Paradise Vape Caramel 2
Paradise Vape LnB
Paradise Vape RY4

Pink Spot G Spot

Totally Wicked (old) RY4

Virgin Vapors Bananas Foster
Virgin Vapors Banana Nut Bread
Virgin Vapors Kona Coffee Milkshake
Virgin Vapors Kona Velvet
Virgin Vapors Not So Virgin Egg Nog

Vermillion River Caramelized Cappuccino
Vermillion River Kentucky Premium Blend
Vermillion River Kentucky Vanilla Blend


UNSAFE
DO NOT USE THE FOLLOWING JUICES IN CARTO TANKS

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Lorann Butter Rum
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively

[Roger]

Good idea Gordy, here are the results of the boaters jury:

Safe (ones I've used in a little mama)

Hangsen
RY4
Cotton Candy
Virginia
Butterscotch
HS Impulse

Paradise Vape
RY4
LnB

Vapourworld
RY4 Tobacco
Flu Cured
RY Hi5

Vapeescape
Caramel (think it's HS)
Griz's Cocomel

Cheers

[Anne (fuzzy)]

SAFE[/size][/b]

Freedom Vape Cappuccino
Freedom Vape Strawberry
Freedom Vape Caramel
Freedom Vape RY4

Paradise Vape Banana
Paradise Vape Cappuccino

[womble]

How long does it take for the juices to crack the tanks? Anyone know?

And it's interesting that vermillion river is on the safe list, as they are listed on another list as being bad.

[flimflam]

Hi Gordy,

I applaud yer aims, but for me this approach is a bit back to front. Rather than generate an ever expanding list of juices that can crack polycarb tanks I think it might be better to point folks at suppliers of tanks that won't crack in the first place

TBH, any supplier of polycarb tanks is potentially letting down thier customers. It shouldn't be left to the consumer to have to avoid using perfectly vapable juices. >

A better solution IMO would be to point folks at good suppliers who sell tanks that are up to the job, eg:

Totally Wicked - Tanks made of Polypropelene
Alba Vapours - Tanks made of Pyrex
Siam Mods - Tanks made of Delrin

I'm sure there are others out there as well.

This way the good guys would get the trade, and the others would have to up thier game. It's really not difficult to source the right materials for the job if you put your mind to it. Just a matter of having the right priorities.

Cheers,
John

Edit - spelling

[domesticextremist]

Have to agree with flimflam - if polycarbonate is a problem,
why are tank makers still using it?

[Gordy]

This thread isnt to debate what carto tank is better than another carto tank. we all know of other such tanks that are 'safer' with possible juice reactions and for those such tanks they dont have to worry about threads like this. However i'll take this opportunity to mention there are concerns over the fragility of glass tubes and the opaque nature of delrin and stainless steel.

This thread is intended for those people that already have Big Daddy or DCT tanks (of which there are many) who are confused as to which juice is safe to use in their tanks. so by sharing our experience i hope to shed a clearer light on the confusion. As Womble said other such lists have Vermillion River as a suspect juice however from my experience you can see i quite happily use several of their juices in my tanks without an issue

It is my thinking that the actual number of unsafe juices amount to a fraction of 1% of all juices on the market and that the problem with using polycarbonate has been slightly exaggerated ?

[flimflam]

Jan 31, 2012 16:01:03 GMT Gordy said:

This thread isnt to debate what carto tank is better than another carto tank.

Hi Gordy,

That wasn't me point mate, and I'm sorry if you took it that way. Fact is food and drink for example, ain't generally sold in polycarb containers, and there's a reason for that.
- I stand corrected, me apologies Gordy

I'll say no more and get me coat,
John

[Gordy]

Im pretty sure polycarbonate is widely used for food and drink containers but it is advised not to heat them or use if scratched due to the BPA

[Evil Mike]

Ecigwizard are changing their tanks over to Polypropelene soon aswell I believe.

[Perpetua]

Just spotted this thread.

Here are some no no's Gordy.

Sour flavors
Malic acid
Citrus acid
Cinnamon like "atomic cinnamon" types, not warm cinnamon like cinnamon coffe cake, this is okay
Wintergreen juice or flavoring
TPA ripe banana flavoring
TPA honeysuckle flavoring
TPA maraschino cherry flavoring
TPA cherry blossom flavoring
TPA root beer flavoring
mimosa(because of the orange)
cola(because of cinnamon)?
Lorann Butter Rum
Oil based/e liquid that conains essential oils, when mixed with pg/vg, creates esters which will crack plastics
E liquids that contain triacetin, used in vg liquids to carry flavor more effectively

[Anne (fuzzy)]

*Bump*