DNA40 temp sensing mode question.

[satdumbum]

It seems you are fond of your BS.

[Ripshod]

Feb 20, 2015 17:32:45 GMT satdumbum said:

It seems you are fond of your BS.

Working with BS taught me a lot about...........oh, yeah 

British Steel, for those confuddled!!

[satdumbum]

Sorry real world interrupted. So just to be clear for any sane person reading this. Can we reach a consensus? All nickel wire will work but as the chip is mapped for ni200 it may be out by a few degrees with other ni wires. Fair enough?

Ripshod - Thanks for being a good sport

[lairey]

Feb 20, 2015 18:13:45 GMT satdumbum said:

Ripshod - Thanks for being a good sport

He gets plenty of practice here!  

Ripshod 

[Ripshod]

Feb 20, 2015 18:19:30 GMT lairey said:

Feb 20, 2015 18:13:45 GMT satdumbum said:

Ripshod - Thanks for being a good sport

He gets plenty of practice here!  

Ripshod 

aaaaw bless, I think 

Feb 20, 2015 18:13:45 GMT satdumbum said:

Sorry real world interrupted. So just to be clear for any sane person reading this. Can we reach a consensus? All nickel wire will work but as the chip is mapped for ni200 it may be out by a few degrees with other ni wires. Fair enough?

I concur
In the real world the difference would be too small to be noticed by the user.

[VapingBad]

Feb 20, 2015 17:32:45 GMT satdumbum said:

It seems you are fond of your BS.

Is that BS 3075BS 3075, you know the one that applies to Ni200?

Feb 20, 2015 17:22:01 GMT satdumbum said:

Requires a heating coil made from Nickel 200 alloy seems clear to me.

You are the only person I have come across that has said pure nickel is not suitable for the DNA40, the DNA40 spec you linked too clearly does not say that as I showed in reply #27. Ni200 is just a standard that signifies a min of 99.2% nickel and could be put on any nickel satisfying that.

Do you have any links that support what you have said?

[satdumbum]

For heavens sake Vaping Bad get out more. I bet your a real hit with the ladies.

[Get Off My Cloud]

Did i mention i was using ni200?

[satdumbum]

Name: Brandon Ward
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Hi Nicholas,
The DNA 40 was specifically designed to work with Ni-200 wire. If you use a different Nickel wire it may still temperature limit but will not be accurate to the on screen temperature setting.

Thank You,
Brandon
Evolv, Inc.

The last word - I hope!

[Ripshod]

Feb 23, 2015 17:06:58 GMT satdumbum said:

Name: Brandon Ward
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Hi Nicholas,
The DNA 40 was specifically designed to work with Ni-200 wire. If you use a different Nickel wire it may still temperature limit but will not be accurate to the on screen temperature setting.

Thank You,
Brandon
Evolv, Inc.

The last word - I hope!

Nope - the difference is negligible, maybe the same as the difference between 2 identical DNA40s. We all set up to our own personal taste so the difference doesn't matter in the end.  Tease-smiley

Sorry, couldn't resist. That statement from evolv is just there to cover their backs. Use different wire (and admit it) and any warranty is void. Sales talk - we come to expect that as they are supposed to know more about the metal than all of us.

[satdumbum]

OK. So now you say Evolv the manufacturer of the board are wrong.

You of course know better, you are saying there is no difference in the resistance of the 2 wires.

Well Hyndman industries, resistance wire experts if anyone is quote the resistance of the 2. tested, not pulled out of their ass, like your opinion.
For AWG 30 wire at 68f (per ft.)
Ni200 =0.5970ohm
Pure nickel =0.4478 ohm
Now I'm pretty sure those numbers are different. Not slightly different. Completely different. So would the boards reading of temp be. So stop presenting your over inflated opinion and suppositions as facts. I was right about the bs.

[decoy]

i know nothing about all the technical thingamebobs but i do remember heated debates about g plat i think the main thing here is to use so good so called pure nickel or ni200 for us numptys

[Ripshod]

Feb 24, 2015 8:29:18 GMT satdumbum said:

OK. So now you say Evolv the manufacturer of the board are wrong.

You of course know better, you are saying there is no difference in the resistance of the 2 wires.

Well Hyndman industries, resistance wire experts if anyone is quote the resistance of the 2. tested, not pulled out of their ass, like your opinion.
For AWG 30 wire at 68f (per ft.)
Ni200 =0.5970ohm
Pure nickel =0.4478 ohm
Now I'm pretty sure those numbers are different. Not slightly different. Completely different. So would the boards reading of temp be. So stop presenting your over inflated opinion and suppositions as facts. I was right about the bs.

It's not about the reistance satdumbum, it's about the change in resistance when heated. Ni200 has a temperature coefficient identical to pure nickel.

[robby]

Feb 24, 2015 8:29:18 GMT satdumbum said:

OK. So now you say Evolv the manufacturer of the board are wrong.

You of course know better, you are saying there is no difference in the resistance of the 2 wires.

Well Hyndman industries, resistance wire experts if anyone is quote the resistance of the 2. tested, not pulled out of their ass, like your opinion.
For AWG 30 wire at 68f (per ft.)
Ni200 =0.5970ohm
Pure nickel =0.4478 ohm
Now I'm pretty sure those numbers are different. Not slightly different. Completely different. So would the boards reading of temp be. So stop presenting your over inflated opinion and suppositions as facts. I was right about the bs.

For what it`s worth, they will both work. It may be advisable to do scorch tests on them both and adjust the pure nickel setting accordingly. 

[Ripshod]

Feb 20, 2015 19:14:40 GMT satdumbum said:

For heavens sake Vaping Bad get out more. I bet your a real hit with the ladies.

You really seem to be set on an argument satdumbum. I'm not here for that, I'm here to give good, solid advice. I will admit when I'm wrong, but in this case I'm not. Peeps have been running pure Nickel alongside Ni200 for months now on the DNA40 and the general concensus among them is other that a temp adjustment is needed, but it's only a small amount.

The fact that you believe the blurb shows you would rather trust a vendor, whose job is to make money off you, than the joint knowledge of a large group of peeps that have real world experience.

Vaping Bad has already left this thread. I'm taking MY leave now.

Just take your own advice.