Orchid V6 & Advice Needed

[mowjo]

Got my two Ochid V6's today, first dibble into RTA's, and have to say I love the things, great taste and more than enough cloud for me, can't say I like the chunky drip tip but I tried a few others and they just don't look right, but I need advice on coiling/wicking! I did manage it after tightening the wire a bit too tight and and cutting the legs off two coils but I got there, I found a couple of good vids on leak free wicks after reading they are a bit prone to leaks, they all say tuck the wick under leaving the airholes clear, but they are all for duel coils, here's the problem I'm using pre-made wires at 1.25ohms and only want to run one coil, when I wick it! do I do it the same method as twin coil or is it wicked differently for single coil, I shut off the air flow on the side without a coil, gave it a toot and even a lung hit at 8.5w and 1.25ohm coil  I got a big head rush, but noticed juice leaking out the airhole, the odd thing is now I'm down to just over 3/4 of a tank it seems to have stopped, could it be I overfilled the tank?? as it's stopped, my first go at wicking something like this so I know my wicking could be suspect it just seems odd it's stopped now it's not so full of juice,, most of the stuff I've watched has been for the Billow which is pretty much the same as the Orchid, one thing I do know is the Orchid RTA is a whole different experiance to my Protanks and Iclears If I'd had known I could have saved myself a whole heap of cash, now they all live in my spares box, I have everyone here to thank for advising me to go the RTA route, I guess like everything else Vaping is a whole learning curve,,

Mow,,,,

[Pepperty]

I've refilled my v4's twice and they ALWAYS leak out of airholes for a minute or two. Its something about air pressure when filling. I read that if undoing screw underneath block off airholes with fingers and fill << that's supposed to stop some leaking. The odd thing is, it doesnt flood the chamber and no gurgling, so its just air pressure I think?

[Greg]

The orchid is made for dual coil only really SI I wouldn't recommend single coil use, if you want single coil only get something like a Lemo / kayfun / Subtank.

If you do use the Orchid single coil then there's still a distinct liklihood that juice will be pulled up all juice channels so leakage or chamber flooding can occur.

I'd recommend dual coiling the Orchid

[Greg]

Feb 21, 2015 15:36:32 GMT Pepperty said:

I've refilled my v4's twice and they ALWAYS leak out of airholes for a minute or two. Its something about air pressure when filling. I read that if undoing screw underneath block off airholes with fingers and fill << that's supposed to stop some leaking. The odd thing is, it doesnt flood the chamber and no gurgling, so its just air pressure I think?

I always top filled orchids as the bottom fill methos takes ages due to the slmall clearance between chamber and tank. Even with top fill it leaks initially as you increase pressure in the tank and therefore push juice to the wicks, once you've cleared out the chamber of excess juice initially it shouldn't leak if it's wickedcorrectly until the next fill 

[Greg]

Just to clarify I'm speaking of the V4, I don't have a V6 but I don't think top fill I'd viable with them due to threaded chimney.

[sydsut]

Feb 21, 2015 15:46:27 GMT Greg said:

The orchid is made for dual coil only really SI I wouldn't recommend single coil use, if you want single coil only get something like a Lemo / kayfun / Subtank.

If you do use the Orchid single coil then there's still a distinct liklihood that juice will be pulled up all juice channels so leakage or chamber flooding can occur.

I'd recommend dual coiling the Orchid

Seconded on this. With a single coil you'll not be getting the maximum performance out of the Orchid and it will probably leak every now and then. I have both a V3 and a V4 and I don't get any leaking when they're properly set up.

[spaced]

I agree with the all of above, but if you really want to single coil the orchid, block off the the air hole you do not use as well as closing the screw just incase it is not quite an airtight seal, and jam wicking material in the juice channels that are not in use.

Alas none of that is easy since afaik the V6 does not have a split chimney for you to work on the wicking when partially built.

Until you can block off those unused juice channels I expect it will keep leaking. Especially if you tip it and expose those offending juice channels to the vacuum in your juice chamber. The vacuum in the juice chamber helps in stopping the atty leaking, so an overfilled one may leak at times (this is why top filling can cause leaks at times too)

[mowjo]

Peps and Greg! I think you may be right aboat the air pressure, it leaked a little for about ten toots but it's been fine since then, looks like my wicking may be ok after all,
Greg! I watched a few reviews and they say you can run it with one coil with no problems, the reason I'm using one coil is I ordered pre-made 1.25ohm wires when I ordered the Orchids, thinking even with two I would get 1.25ohms, I didn't realise until you lot put me right, that with two coils you halve the Ohms and I would end up with 0.6 ish ohm coils, and my Istick won't fire below 1.0ohm, I fecked up and now have to order some 3.0ohm coils from FT, I'm liking what I'm getting with just the one 1.25 coils at least I have 98 back ups left, also I cured the problem of me overtightening the coil tails and cutting through them, the bits I cut off the tails, I added in the coil holes tightening the screws down then trimming them off, in effect I now have two wires in each hole spreading the load,,

Mow,,,

Thanks Spaced! I did think along those lines but I don't do faffing very well, next fill I won't fill it as much and see what happens, if the leak I had is the worst I get I can live with it, the difference in the vape to my other kits is worth it, 

[Pepperty]

Best (and worst thing) I ever did, picking up those pair of orchid v4's in classies. Now my silo lites taste crap! in comparison there's zero flavour and my protanks are just a fluffy airy taste of nothingness. so now most of my tanks are obsolete

But lordy! I'm liking the atlantis and pair of orchids... headrushhhhhh

[Greg]

Yes mowjo the orchid terminals aren't the greatest and it's easy to cut through the legs until you figure out the balance between tight enough and too tight.

I'm not convinced you can run an orchid single coil without leaks, I wonder if the reviewers just tried them out like that for a short time. I imagine it's a bit like saying you can use a bucket with a hole in the bottom without spilling any liquid, as long as you only half fill it and carry it at 45 degrees.

[Greg]

Feb 21, 2015 16:20:56 GMT Pepperty said:

Best (and worst thing) I ever did, picking up those pair of orchid v4's in classies. Now my silo lites taste crap! in comparison there's zero flavour and my protanks are just a fluffy airy taste of nothingness. so now most of my tanks are obsolete

But lordy! I'm liking the atlantis and pair of orchids... headrushhhhhh

£6 a pop on FT Pepperty, fill you boots 

Amazing how perceptions change, since getting the Subtanks I find the Orchids quite a tight draw 

[Pepperty]

hahah tight draw?

I'm trying NOT to do a robby spikeyperpetua and buy in bulk as you never know whats around the corner? ...... its not easy to top myself bagging loads of something but I suppose another pair wouldn't hurt  << no no, i'll await the goblin 1st 

I've had to consign my protanks and silos to black n blue and fluid and black jack vintage as there's no way to pick up of subtleties in those tanks. I'm freaking everyone out with these massooove 22mm tanks though

[Pepperty]

ooops spot the obvious typo - I have NO plans to throw myself under a passing tram --- I mean 'stop myself' rather than top myself

[mowjo]

Peps! I've been going up in stages from my Evod glasses, to Iclear 30's then Protanks and on each upgrade the best I've said was it's OK, but these Orhids are a whole different ball game and knock spots off anything I've tried so far including friends kit, for the first time I'm getting great flavour on the inhale and exhale, a more advanced vapor might say they are crap but as a basic vapor I can't fault them, it's hard when your on a budget as everyone has their own favorites, but I think I might be buying more Orchids as they bring out new ones, and it seems leaking dosn't just happen with Orchids,

Mow,,,

Greg your right! they only said it works OK with one coil, I don't think any actuall showed it,  as I have plenty of spares I'll run it on one for a while and see how it goes, though I do take the point why have something that runs two coils and only use one, but I will be going over to two coils, Promise,

[Greg]

V6s should leak less than a V4 as they have the raised air intakes on the juice deck