Citrus Throat Hit

[Tom]

Firstly I think I'm going mad as I'm sure I've already made this post... but I can't see it so maybe I didnt

I have a few mixes where I love the flavour profile but the throat hit is battering me.

This seems to be mostly on citrus'y type vapes.

I'm on 6mg so am considering making the prime culprits in 3mg to lessen the impact.

Or perhaps add a creamy flavour to knock it down?

Is this what wizmix and the like do?

Any help and suggestions from our master mixers greatly appreciated

x

[igual]

Drop of mts? And a drop of sweetener.
A creamy note would change the flavour a lot, anouther one to think about is magic mask

Magic Mask – .5-2% - Reduces acid perception without modifying PH. Adds mouthfeel.

Vape Wizard (MTS) More,Thicker,Smoother– .5-2% - Smooth’s things out, cuts down harshness, creates body. Can dull flavors,

[debra465]

The master mixers will no doubt be along shortly. In the meantime, I've had the same issues, and assume it's because the citrusy type flavours are very acidic.
A small amount of creamy stuff will smooth it out, 1% of coconut will make a big difference as well.

Horrible day outside, so I'm about to have my first dabble with a goblin

Am following your guide, thank you Tom

[jackcustard]

I use 6mg, solely on an RDA and notice it's hit and miss with which ones give me a strong throat hit and no throat hit.

Was trying Boom Juice Citrus Sunshine last night, massive throat hit, Lizard Tears and their Custard in very similar VG and PG ratios were smooth...

I would say the Citrus Sunshine is more watermelon and melon than a sharp citrus though...

[Tom]

Mar 29, 2015 8:39:30 GMT igual said:

Drop of mts? And a drop of sweetener.
A creamy note would change the flavour a lot, anouther one to think about is magic mask

Magic Mask – .5-2% - Reduces acid perception without modifying PH. Adds mouthfeel.

Vape Wizard (MTS) More,Thicker,Smoother– .5-2% - Smooth’s things out, cuts down harshness, creates body. Can dull flavors,

You used any of these?

I dont have them and never used them before so was going to use the creamy method just because i have lots of that type, vanilla swirl, bav cream etc...

I dont mind buying some MTS or magic mask if someone has used it for this and can reccomend

[Tom]

It does sound like it could do its thing for me.

Just want to hear off a vaper if it has worked xD

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[debra465]

Tom UK flavours have the same thing, Blend Wizard. 30 mls, good value

[Tom]

Mar 29, 2015 9:26:14 GMT debra465 said:

Tom UK flavours have the same thing, Blend Wizard. 30 mls, good value

lol thanks debra465

Ive sent them a message on here asking if it was the same

[Perpetua]

Mar 29, 2015 8:27:27 GMT Tom said:

I have a few mixes where I love the flavour profile but the throat hit is battering me.

This seems to be mostly on citrus'y type vapes.

Same here Tom . . . an added 1% sweetener has so far worked for me.

But it's useful to have some Vape/Blend Wizard or TPA's Smooth in anyway . . . . .

[lairey]

I have some and have used it, but only in recipes that called for it, so can't tell you what difference it makes. Happy to decant a few mls for you for Friday Tom

[igual]

Yep have used vape wiz in a few things an MTS . work quite well but use sparingly.

[Tom]

Mar 29, 2015 17:24:32 GMT Perpetua said:

Mar 29, 2015 8:27:27 GMT Tom said:

I have a few mixes where I love the flavour profile but the throat hit is battering me.

This seems to be mostly on citrus'y type vapes.

Same here Tom . . . an added 1% sweetener has so far worked for me.

But it's useful to have some Vape/Blend Wizard or TPA's Smooth in anyway . . . . .

Noted

Never really thought of sweetener as they already kind of have that acidic sweetness.

Will give it a go for sure

Mar 29, 2015 17:28:15 GMT lairey said:

I have some and have used it, but only in recipes that called for it, so can't tell you what difference it makes. Happy to decant a few mls for you for Friday Tom

ooo that'd be brill, least i can give it a go without buying first. Thanks very much.

I'm getting used to the orangella one, Ive also made this at 60vg which is more pg than I'm used to so that has probably had an effect too.

Im definitely going to give orangella a go with just a hint of cream, if this was just a bit smoother it would be ace of spades!

Still very much enjoying it as it comes on its own

[Perpetua]

Mar 29, 2015 17:44:12 GMT Tom said:

Mar 29, 2015 17:24:32 GMT Perpetua said:

Same here Tom . . . an added 1% sweetener has so far worked for me.

But it's useful to have some Vape/Blend Wizard or TPA's Smooth in anyway . . . . .

Noted

Never really thought of sweetener as they already kind of have that acidic sweetness.

Will give it a go for sure

Wasn't sure myself whether it would have the desired effect when I first tried it either Tom, but it's certainly worked on the flavours I've used . . . it's just smoothed out the harshness, without losing any of the actual flavour.

Also made them seem more ' juicy '. 

I did also leave the sweetener to blend for a couple of days as well . . . .

[lairey]

Mar 29, 2015 17:44:12 GMT Tom said:

Mar 29, 2015 17:24:32 GMT Perpetua said:

Same here Tom . . . an added 1% sweetener has so far worked for me.

But it's useful to have some Vape/Blend Wizard or TPA's Smooth in anyway . . . . .

Noted

Never really thought of sweetener as they already kind of have that acidic sweetness.

Will give it a go for sure

Mar 29, 2015 17:28:15 GMT lairey said:

I have some and have used it, but only in recipes that called for it, so can't tell you what difference it makes. Happy to decant a few mls for you for Friday Tom

ooo that'd be brill, least i can give it a go without buying first. Thanks very much.

I'm getting used to the orangella one, Ive also made this at 60vg which is more pg than I'm used to so that has probably had an effect too.

Im definitely going to give orangella a go with just a hint of cream, if this was just a bit smoother it would be ace of spades!

Still very much enjoying it as it comes on its own

No problem... my mixing gear is still on the dining table, so will decant some now.

Just out of interest, why did you mix with extra PG? These days, for my mixes, the only PG is the flavouring, so my Orangella is 20/80 

[Tom]

Just trying to extract some extra flavour and trying out the 60/40 ratio.

Think I prefer the 70/30. Flavour not much different by vapour just feels smoother and more full