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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 14, 2015 22:58:44 GMT
NEW! (24/08) I've got new batches of PG and VG base arriving tomorrow which were manufactured as long ago as last Friday so if you want to treat yourself to some really fresh stuff for the bank holiday..... Piratesvape
Don't feel too hard done by if you've only just bought some from us btw as that wont be any more than about a month old either and has been kept properly refrigerated, I could buy a small lake of cheaper stuff to take advantage of price breaks and keep it on a shelf for months but we don't - which is why it's just a little bit more expensive than some other places
Piratesvape are a Ltd company operating from a newly built premises in the picturesque Lancashire village of Upholland. We only deal in vaping related liquids and we take what we do very seriously indeed; from finding the right companies to supply us with only the very best quality products, to correctly storing them - which in the case of our nicotine base is refrigerated in freezers and fridges used solely for nicotine storage - to bottling using the correct food industry standard equipment. Every process is carried out with the highest standards of hygiene possible to ensure that all products arrive with customers in the very best of condition. We are also currently working with various organisations to ensure that everything possible is in place within the next couple of months to comply with Article 20 of the E.U. TPD. Piratesvape Ltd are also members of the EECBA and fully support their aims of promoting and encouraging a significantly more professional approach to business from companies in the vaping industry.
I know most of you know us as ‘the place that sells Pixie Concentrates’ but our main business is actually selling Nicotine Bases and dilutants. Now, I’m not going to waste your time, if you’re just looking for the cheapest acceptable nicotine we’re not the cheapest and wont ever be so....... errrrr thanks for looking anyway HOWEVER we do have other things to offer. We are specialists in supplying nicotine base ready packaged for long term storage. All our nicotine comes in pharmaceutical grade amber glass bottles and in sizes that will fit fairly unobtrusively in your fridge or freezer. My aim for Piratesvape is to have a reputation for selling the best Nicotine Base and our nicotine supplier was chosen on that basis above any other. Unfortunately quality does cost but in my opinion it is genuinely worth a few extra quid over the Alchem bases and I'm actually putting my money where my mouth is to be honest because our profit margin is considerably less with this than Alchem bases - but I think it's so good I couldn't not sell it once I tried it. Uniquely we also offer 10ml sample bottles for only the cost of p&p so you can try before you buy rather than taking my word for the quality and if you order anything else at the same time they are completely free Freezer Club – I know a lot of people are worried about what the EU is going to come up with but never quite get round to doing anything about it due to cost and, lets be honest, memory failure If you sign up to our Freezer Club it should help to spread the cost and help you remember! You choose how many and what size bottles you want a month and whether you want PG or VG Base, we send you a Paypal invoice on the 1st of every month, you click on ‘pay now’ and it’s in the post to you the next working day.
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 15, 2015 14:08:34 GMT
Just as a quick follow up - everyone says their base it the clearest and doesn't taste of anything etc etc - obviously I can't demonstrate the latter over the internet ......... but I can provide a rubbish mobile phone picture to demonstrate the clarity . The bottle on the right is Alchem PG base, the bottle on the left is my new PG base I'll try and get a better one tomorrow because that really is rubbish
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Apr 15, 2015 15:20:35 GMT
All PG starts off crystal clear, time, uv light and oxidation cause it to change colour this is why chemical companies ship it in opaque containers rather than clear ones and is also why it has a use by date.
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 15, 2015 15:40:12 GMT
All PG starts off crystal clear, time, uv light and oxidation cause it to change colour this is why chemical companies ship it in opaque containers rather than clear ones and is also why it has a use by date. You are correct, however the PG base from Alchem which was manufactured in the middle of January according to their COA was that colour when it arrived in the opaque containers. I keep all my bases refrigerated to just above 0 degrees and in the original containers which are sealed until required and then pretty much bottled to order. I have seen allegedly fresh 7.2% PG base from all the main producers and this is clearer, I know that doesn't necessarily make it better but it is clearer ........ or perhaps it is genuinely fresh rather than the base that usually gets palmed off on vapers by the nicotine suppliers.......
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Apr 15, 2015 15:47:02 GMT
No fair do's, it's nice to see a vendor that stores it correctly and understands the differences whilst at the same time strives to deliver a product at it's best "or perhaps it is genuinely fresh rather than the base that usually gets palmed off on vapers by the nicotine suppliers....." I think that you have hit the nail on the head with that up there ^^^
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 21, 2015 13:06:35 GMT
Is this the best PG Nicotine base you can buy? yup - but you've all heard that before haven't you! So you can cheaply see why I'm making such a fuss about this stuff I've put some 10ml sample bottles on the website, all you will pay is the £2.99 postage at checkout (if you order something else as well they are free!) BUT this offer is limited to ONE bottle per customer and there are only 40 sample bottles available Piratesvape.UK Linky
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Post by Brambles on Apr 21, 2015 16:35:15 GMT
There are two companies I know of which produce the purist nicotine. One with Offices based in Switzerland and other in Northern Ireland. I can vouch for this nicotine base being top quality and you will not buy better. It is nice to see vendors who are happy to supply Certificates of Analysis and have traceability for their products. I would have no hesitation in trusting the quality of piratesvapeuk nicotine base.
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 21, 2015 17:56:58 GMT
There are two companies I know of which produce the purist nicotine. One with Offices based in Switzerland and other in Northern Ireland. I can vouch for this nicotine base being top quality and you will not buy better. It is nice to see vendors who are happy to supply Certificates of Analysis and have traceability for their products. I would have no hesitation in trusting the quality of piratesvapeuk nicotine base. There are actually three now and this base is from the new company. They have brand new multimillion pound factory/research facility in the North West which I am lucky enough to have been on a little tour around and I'm not exaggerating when I say it is a little like Willi Wonka's Vaping Factory crossed with Space 1999....... a SERIOUSLY impressive place! The PG I have is from their very first batch and I've had nothing but glowing reviews from seriously experienced professional juice makers like Pixie who I've sent samples to. I only got a small sample of their VG but if anything I've had even more glowing reviews about it than the PG so I am hoping to be stocking it in the next few weeks. The down side to it is that it is expensive, trust me if I was just in this for a profit I would be selling Alchem base rather than this but once I'd seen and tried it I just couldn't go back. The proof of the pudding is in the eating though which is why I've done these sample bottles. Yes it is more expensive than some of my competitors but when you break it down into the amount you'd use to make 100ml of liquid it really is only a few pence. I'm happy to send out the COA as well with the samples if you add a comment saying you'd like a copy when you order a sample.
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Post by Brambles on Apr 21, 2015 18:07:08 GMT
Ahhhh, clearly I got wrong end of stick. Never mind. As I have not checked this new company out I will have to withdraw my vouching. ooops!
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Post by Richard46 on Apr 21, 2015 19:25:14 GMT
Any ideas about the usable storage life of this nic base?Assuming it is bought in your dark glass storage option.
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 21, 2015 20:05:26 GMT
Any ideas about the usable storage life of this nic base?Assuming it is bought in your dark glass storage option. In a freezer probably almost indefinitely. I say probably because as far as I'm aware no one has actually tried keeping nicotine base in a freezer for 20 years or so. The standard wisdom is that it will keep for a long time if it's in a glass bottle and in a cold dark environment but over long periods of time it may become very slightly weaker. If anyone knows of a study where someone has kept nicotine base in these conditions I would be interested in seeing it too, I have searched Google extensively and asked industrial chemists and the answer above is pretty much the best you get .......
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Post by Perpetua on Apr 21, 2015 20:20:05 GMT
Any ideas about the usable storage life of this nic base?Assuming it is bought in your dark glass storage option. In a freezer probably almost indefinitely. I say probably because as far as I'm aware no one has actually tried keeping nicotine base in a freezer for 20 years or so. The standard wisdom is that it will keep for a long time if it's in a glass bottle and in a cold dark environment but over long periods of time it may become very slightly weaker. If anyone knows of a study where someone has kept nicotine base in these conditions I would be interested in seeing it too, I have searched Google extensively and asked industrial chemists and the answer above is pretty much the best you get ....... I'm up to 4+ years with the nicotine base I'm currently using piratesvapeuk, well short of decades . . . . but ' frozen ' stored in amber glass, I can find no detectable deterioration. Although I have no means of testing scientifically.
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 21, 2015 20:47:24 GMT
I'm up to 4+ years with the nicotine base I'm currently using piratesvapeuk, well short of decades . . . . but ' frozen ' stored in amber glass, I can find no detectable deterioration. Although I have no means of testing scientifically. I know a few people who are using nicotine of a similar age with no problems but it's always good to hear of another As an aside I 'stocked up' myself a couple of years ago (and I wish I could charge now what I paid for a litre of 52mg nicotine then ) and basically due to lazyness I just stuck it on a shelf in my garage and........ erm forgot about it. I rediscovered it this January and out of interest I opened the package for a look - it had gone a very dodgy looking colour, not surprising after being sat on a shelf in a garage that gets rather warm in the summer, but in the interests of science I mixed some juice up with it. Perhaps surprisingly it was actually ok (slightly 'wrong' tasting but not unvapeable by any means) and seemed to be near enough the 24mg strength I mixed to as makes to difference in terms of vaping it. Now I don't recommend anyone follows my lead, and if I'd left it another 2 years it might well be a different story, BUT it does show it is fairly resilient stuff.
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Post by *-SARIN-* on Apr 21, 2015 22:32:37 GMT
I wrote a sort of mini guide to the long term storage of nicotine base a while ago and i really should complete it and get it stickied but here's a link to the thread (Post number 49 but the whole thread is worth a read if you have the time, just make sure that you read to the end). Bulk Nicotine
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Post by piratesvapeuk on Apr 22, 2015 8:31:59 GMT
I wrote a sort of mini guide to the long term storage of nicotine base a while ago and i really should complete it and get it stickied but here's a link to the thread (Post number 49 but the whole thread is worth a read if you have the time, just make sure that you read to the end). Bulk NicotineThat's actually one of the best threads I've read anywhere on long term storage of nicotine base (and yes I read it all ) It would seem I'm doing everything pretty much spot on then with my freezer packs then in that the bottles are filled to where the neck starts to become cylindrical but not completely full to allow a suitable air gap for contraction/expansion, amber glass bottles, laser printed polyester labels that will survive living in the freezer........ and of course a very good quality nic base to begin with
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