Vype e-cigarettes

[igual]

Apr 15, 2015 22:43:46 GMT Raffles said:

Just seen the ad on TV, very slick, and appealing to the mis-informed. The marketing person who came up with uk . govype.com definitely earned their salary... very sneaky.

Quote from their website...

Vype is sold by Nicoventures Trading Limited, a company acquired by BAT in late 2012. Nicoventures Trading sits in the Nicoventures division of the BAT Group which is managed separately from the tobacco business.

IMO that says it all... run as fast as you can... unfortunately most will not! 

Even when I first started vaping I started at 18 mg and found that to strong and dropped to 14 mg soon as I started mixing 10 days later lol.
27 mg would put me on the floor.

Owned by bat as you said says it all really.
I think a lot of the big retailer's are totally confused over vaping.
Maybe vapers in power should book a few meetings with the head honchos lol.

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27 mg thats just crazy that would knock me out

[zeldamum]

Apr 15, 2015 22:33:20 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

I'll bring one over to show you, it'll make a nice prodder for vendors slow with the coffee zeldamum

Oi cheeky. I will dig the kettle out and give you instant on Friday

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I started on 36mg/ml

Now I have a friend in a care home who loves the vype e-pen and doesn't smoke when she uses it. But a word of warning......(I think I saw this in one of the first video reviews - they've been around a while) - they do not have standard 510 fittings so whilst it looks like you're vaping on an ego battery you can't put any 510 atty on them

Rip off - yes - but anyone...

[Saferciggie]

look at the design of these, they have been designed to accommodate tbd suggestions I think ie carts that you cannot refill or come in contact with liquid, 2 ml max. I feel these will be the first and probably only vape device legally sold soon. BAT and pharma don't want vaping gone just control over it and the money it can bring in and we all know they will get their own way we just need to find the loopholes.

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Apr 16, 2015 15:29:40 GMT Saferciggie said:

look at the design of these, they have been designed to accommodate tbd suggestions I think ie carts that you cannot refill or come in contact with liquid, 2 ml max. I feel these will be the first and probably only vape device legally sold soon. BAT and pharma don't want vaping gone just control over it and the money it can bring in and we all know they will get their own way we just need to find the loopholes.

Got my loophole covered, 3.5 ltr. of Nic in the freezer, that should last me a good few years especially as mixes are now 6mg in strength. 

[yourgurnard]

Re. the uk. gov. sneaky:- I'm not sure who to be more contemptuous of; the Co./Ad. Execs....or the Sheep-le that feel re-assured 'cos of the 'govt' 'endorsement!!!!!

(...Second Thoughts; bigbiz= Evil; Sheep-le = Ignorant..... one of these is forgivable!!!)

[charliehorse]

Apr 16, 2015 15:29:40 GMT Saferciggie said:

look at the design of these, they have been designed to accommodate tbd suggestions I think ie carts that you cannot refill or come in contact with liquid, 2 ml max. I feel these will be the first and probably only vape device legally sold soon. BAT and pharma don't want vaping gone just control over it and the money it can bring in and we all know they will get their own way we just need to find the loopholes.

Yeah, but at 27mg nicotine they would be banned as well.

[osdset]

Apr 15, 2015 23:59:17 GMT @zuza said:

27 mg thats just crazy that would knock me out

I must be an odd one out, I regularly vape 30mg juice at around 25-30watts (depending on the coil build), and I find that doesn't hit the spot at times.

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Apr 16, 2015 18:45:21 GMT charliehorse said:

Apr 16, 2015 15:29:40 GMT Saferciggie said:

look at the design of these, they have been designed to accommodate tbd suggestions I think ie carts that you cannot refill or come in contact with liquid, 2 ml max. I feel these will be the first and probably only vape device legally sold soon. BAT and pharma don't want vaping gone just control over it and the money it can bring in and we all know they will get their own way we just need to find the loopholes.

Yeah, but at 27mg nicotine they would be banned as well.

I agree totally, when my wife and I quit we both started on 18mg e liquid, now I smoked 35-40 a day and can honestly say we were fine, no cravings at all.

To offer 27mg to most new vapers imo smacks of no understanding whatsoever, and the cost these rip off merchants are trying to justify is downright criminal! I know exactly how much it costs to make e liquid, as do most other diy mixers, and can tell you they would be making a fortune from something that's costs less than at most a little over £1.

Typical Big Tobacco! 

[Bobsbeer]

We started at 30mg and dropped to 27 after a few weeks. We are now at 12mg. I don't think 27 is excessively high when it come to starting to vape and move away from fags. The problem as I see it is that there isn't the choice with these. People are going to stop using the brand pretty quickly if they can't reduce the nic, and move to a brand that works for them. In many respects they have placed themselves as the entry vaping equipment provider. Not a bad strategy, but not a long term brand. Maybe it's because it's BT. They think that people want stability in their brand of cigs. Vaping is the only nicotine delivery system that seems to allow a person to reduce nic or stay the same. BT have to add nic to maintain the level in the tobacco.

[chykensa]

Apr 16, 2015 20:48:08 GMT Bobsbeer said:

We started at 30mg and dropped to 27 after a few weeks. We are now at 12mg. I don't think 27 is excessively high when it come to starting to vape and move away from fags. The problem as I see it is that there isn't the choice with these. People are going to stop using the brand pretty quickly if they can't reduce the nic, and move to a brand that works for them. In many respects they have placed themselves as the entry vaping equipment provider. Not a bad strategy, but not a long term brand. Maybe it's because it's BT. They think that people want stability in their brand of cigs. Vaping is the only nicotine delivery system that seems to allow a person to reduce nic or stay the same. BT have to add nic to maintain the level in the tobacco.

I absolutely agree Bobsbeer - this shows a typical lack of fundamental understanding of the vaping community, something that they could have avoided entirely by lurking on this forum, and seeing the desire of some vapers to lower their nicotine intake incrementally until it is almost at a trace level. They just assume, and as we all know, that is a dangerous game to play.
I really can't see any longevity in this brand - sure, it will help smokers to quit tobacco, but where do they go then!? If they want to reduce, they will need to shop elsewhere, and buy another type of battery to power another type of atomiser, and let's face it, the choice of flavours is hardly original, is it?
What's wrong with some more exotic flavours - tobacco, mint and cherry probably look exciting to a non-smoking Board of Directors, but with all the wonderful combinations available, it makes the brand look bland.

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But you're all talking from hobbyist vapers points of view

To someone who is heavily nic addicted and doesn't want to be hobbyist vype e-pens are very attractive.....

All the other brands are no where near as strong and if they keep folk away from the stinkies and cost less that's what matters...

To a disabled person these are good (not all disabiities but am talking about my experience with the girl from the care home . No offense)

If they tax them to the hilt I'll have a problem but hey ho

And I only have about 4 or 5 single mix flavours I rotate

[jmw2309]

When I started vaping I spent hours trying flavours in the shop which were all 18mg and I couldn't see myself sticking with it. I dropped to 12mg within a week and am now on 6mg. I couldn't imagine personally vaping 27mg juice but that's just me.

I did meet a guy in my local B & M who stayed that he mixed his own juice at 56mg and by the way he was coughing I believed him! He said anything lower made him immediatly roll a 'snout'

[DiscoDes]

These E-cigs HAVE to have high nic strength because they don't produce much vapour, so the opposite of a sub ohm atomiser with low nic juice producing loads of vapour applies.

The only way they can get enough nic out of them is to use higher strengths, look at the other Big Tobacco e-cigs they are generally the same, very high nicotine strengths. (basically because they are so crap at producing vapour).