Efest 6 bay intelligent charger with bluetooth

[vern]

I'll second VapingBad, I have a 4bay charger around 10feet from me on the landing...when I go to another room/toilet/kitchen etc I can glance at it and see the battery status. I also keep the car keys there, so when I leave I just touch the wall socket with my foot to switch it off at the mains, and when I come back I switch it on again. Same when sleepies time comes.
Sometimes I'm stupid, and forget to put batteries on the charger during the day, and I wont charge at night, so the next day I'm being careful with my vape hoping a battery charges quickly, and keep checking the charger to see the status.

So this bluetooth thing means they can reduce the cost of the charger (no lcd screen needed, bluetooth module is pennies), this is good for us in a way. Depending on the app, I'll get one...if it can use the notification tray on a phone to let me know when a battery is charged then that will save me time.

[VapingBad]

The fridge and TV are a lot safer than the batteries, laptop batteries also have internal protection circuitry.

It is a choice, it is a very small totally avoidable risk, but it could cause a house fire and I share my house with people I love.

There is no need to charge batteries unattended or be inconvenienced by charging them attended if you buy the right kit.

[vapee]

Yea I agree with the points that people might then only rely on the blu tooth and not check the batteries physically, but one use of blu tooth is I guess to tell you when the charge is finished, then again the charger could just make a noise to accomplish this, also I would hope this gives info on the current voltage and rate its charging at, even temperature would be good cos the other chargers do have temp detection built in. Its safer to charge in a lipo sack, thick steel box or similar and on some kinda fireproof material such as a spare tile, as long as the charger doesnt over heat because of the sack for example, but most chargers don't usually depending on the charge speed. So blu tooth could be useful then if the charger is covered, but still best to verify the heat occasionally and actually see if its all charging fine, any weird smells etc. Also would be good to have a smoke detector nearby too.

Would be good if they provided a charger bag with the chargers as I'm sure they'd be cheap to include and sometimes if people get one off ebay they might not be made out of materials that can stand alot of heat.

[Deleted]

great deal Q from bargain master john wonder when his website will be live
i can see it being a very busy online store

[Ripshod]

The most dangerous thing a civilian would ever hold in their hands is an 18650 (doesn't matter about chemistry)

This device instills a false confidence in the user, which may or may not lead to harm. Do you want to be involved in a lottery that involes your life.

I'm dead against cdarp like this (take that with a pinch of salt if you wish)

VapingBad is bang on in this case - should be outlawed.

[Bob]

Jun 5, 2015 11:17:12 GMT VapingBad said:

Jun 5, 2015 11:03:08 GMT Q said:

It makes me laugh really, (most) everyone saying that it's a bad idea and they NEVER leave their batteries.... B*LLSH*T, I dont believe for one minute that you all put your batteries on charge then sit next to them for a couple of hours, watching & constantly checking their temperature.

You probably do as I do, put them on charge then get on with your usual daily duties, checking them whenever you go back in the room, but NOT leaving them charging if you leave the house/office, if this is the case the bluetooth option (whilst a bit gimmicky) is a good idea, I haven't read anywhere that it turns off the charger (having said that all DECENT chargers cut the charge to at least a trickle when charging is complete), and the bluetooth range (for monitoring) is only around 30ft so you wouldn't be going very far.

I will be looking for full specs on this charger and hopefully a decent review, but I can see this being a useful upgrade

Thanks for indirectly implying that we are ingenious Q.  I never charge unattended, I don't look at the charger constantly, but it is a metre away, though I have briefly in the past in a lipo-safe bag, if I have to leave the room I just turn the charger off until I return.  It is so easy you just need decent batteries (VTC4 & 25R) and a great charger of two, so with my 2 Xtar SP2s I can charge 4 VTC4s in 70 mins or 25Rs in about 90 mins, I have 18 of these batteries so am never under pressure to charge them ASAP. I know that other members do similar, we are not liars, just responsible adults that decided to be proactive with the safety of their families so buy a battery and charge combination that best allows this.

Must admit, I don't turn the charger(s) off if I go to the loo or pop downstairs to make a coffee, but if I'm leaving the room for longer then yes, I pull the plugs (2 x i4)

[buggritt]

Jun 5, 2015 14:20:32 GMT Ripshod said:

The most dangerous thing a civilian would ever hold in their hands is an 18650 (doesn't matter about chemistry)

This device instills a false confidence in the user, which may or may not lead to harm. Do you want to be involved in a lottery that involes your life.

I'm dead against cdarp like this (take that with a pinch of salt if you wish)

VapingBad is bang on in this case - should be outlawed.

The most dangerous thing in your hand is a steering wheel.

[Q]

Wedding ring is worse

[letsavit]

Jun 5, 2015 11:50:45 GMT VapingBad said:

The fridge and TV are a lot safer than the batteries, laptop batteries also have internal protection circuitry.

It is a choice, it is a very small totally avoidable risk, but it could cause a house fire and I share my house with people I love.

There is no need to charge batteries unattended or be inconvenienced by charging them attended if you buy the right kit.

how I charge when alone I'll keep to myself but as highlighted above if I have my children over or girlfriend I follow VapingBad & Ripshod advice to the tee, what risks I decide to do in everything in life, not just charging batteries I do oppose on others, couldn't live with myself if........

[chykensa]

I'm more than aware that batteries are a fire hazard. I charge in the same room as I am (mostly in the dining room in the evenings, where I am now), and have the charger less than a metre away from me and in plain view. If I leave the room, the charger goes off. I recharge my mods in the same way - with me and easy to feel for temperature etc.
I really can't see that a Bluetooth capability will replace the requirement for plain old sensible practice and caution. Sure, if it sent an alert to your phone if the temperature rises, a battery finishes charging, etc., that would be great, but none of this seems to be included.
Verdict - sales gimmick, nothing more!

[Greg]

Well I charge my batts in the study and leave them too it, I have better things to do that sit watching them. I've also been known to drive my car in excess of the speed limit as a very kind officer could testify from a few weeks back . Very fortunately for me he chose not too

[VapingBad]

Jun 5, 2015 23:41:17 GMT Greg said:

Well I charge my batts in the study and leave them too it, I have better things to do that sit watching them. I've also been known to drive my car in excess of the speed limit as a very kind officer could testify from a few weeks back . Very fortunately for me he chose not too

This is not aimed at you Greg, just taking advantage of the metaphor/example.

Like I said earlier it is a choice, driving fast is obvious to everybody, but the battery charging risk isn't.   A very small risk in terms of the likelihood of having an event, but the important thing is that event could cause a fire.  So if you can't be bothered to arrange things so you can charge your batteries attended without changing you life style you choose to take that risk. 

I started vaping with cigalikes and ran the batteries down faster than they would charge, it was a real PITA and lead me to topping up with stinkies on holiday. I learnt form this and now  I charge for 90 mins a day, but could still do one 90 min session every 2 days for 4 x 25R 2500 mAh and can turn the charger off and on again so 3 x 30 min slots every 2 days.  

I chose to do this by selecting chargers and batteries that allow it as I don't want to sit by the charger for hours or have to plan my movements to charge.  If charging is more hassle for you it is because you chose to do it that way and if that is so much hassle that you charge unattended or even worse in your sleep it is still because you choose to have the hassle.  Now this may seem very harsh as this is not obvious, but we all make decisions without all the info we need every day and it is in that sense I mean it, I have a load of batteries an a couple of chargers that don't get used because I bought them before I understood this.

If it takes more time every day than you have to charge your kit you can either change your kit, change your schedule or take the risk, it is your choice.  But you don't need to take the risk, it is not the default modus operandi and I get tired of the sub text that people like me are putting unreasonable constraint on the way you charge safely.

And the 6 bay charger in the OP , 6 & 4 bay chargers are going to be slow, better to get two good fast two bay chargers IMO (with batteries that can charge that fast).

[Greg]

Jun 6, 2015 0:14:39 GMT VapingBad said:

Jun 5, 2015 23:41:17 GMT Greg said:

Well I charge my batts in the study and leave them too it, I have better things to do that sit watching them. I've also been known to drive my car in excess of the speed limit as a very kind officer could testify from a few weeks back . Very fortunately for me he chose not too

This is not aimed at you Greg, just taking advantage of the metaphor/example.

Like I said earlier it is a choice, driving fast is obvious to everybody, but the battery charging risk isn't.   A very small risk in terms of the likelihood of having an event, but the important thing is that event could cause a fire.  So if you can't be bothered to arrange things so you can charge your batteries attended without changing you life style you choose to take that risk. 

I started vaping with cigalikes and ran the batteries down faster than they would charge, it was a real PITA and lead me to topping up with stinkies on holiday. I learnt form this and now  I charge for 90 mins a day, but could still do one 90 min session every 2 days for 4 x 25R 2500 mAh and can turn the charger off and on again so 3 x 30 min slots every 2 days.  

I chose to do this by selecting chargers and batteries that allow it as I don't want to sit by the charger for hours or have to plan my movements to charge.  If charging is more hassle for you it is because you chose to do it that way and if that is so much hassle that you charge unattended or even worse in your sleep it is still because you choose to have the hassle.  Now this may seem very harsh as this is not obvious, but we all make decisions without all the info we need every day and it is in that sense I mean it, I have a load of batteries an a couple of chargers that don't get used because I bought them before I understood this.

If it takes more time every day than you have to charge your kit you can either change your kit, change your schedule or take the risk, it is your choice.  But you don't need to take the risk, it is not the default modus operandi and I get tired of the sub text that people like me are putting unreasonable constraint on the way you charge safely.

And the 6 bay charger in the OP , 6 & 4 bay chargers are going to be slow, better to get two good fast two bay chargers IMO (with batteries that can charge that fast).

That's fine mate, I don't disagree with what your suggesting I just chose not to do it. I believe if you only use quality batteries, a good charger and don't charge overnight or if your going out then the risks are minimal. I'm happy to roll like that but wouldn't dissuade anyone from following your advice.

[VapingBad]

Like I said not aimed at you Greg rather at people saying they need huge time slots every day to charge so can't possibly be there when it charges, no one forced them to buy that kit and no one is stopping them getting different kit.

[buggritt]

The anti vaping lobby is using the same argument to have vaping banned or severely restricted. Tiny risk - so ban them.
The only thing I've ever had catch fire was a telly, years ago. I came in to find it dripping molten metal on the carpet. Not switched on, but plugged in.
Laptops do indeed have safety features. So does my charger. Neither will cope with a battery pack setting alight. there's no fire extinguisher built in.
I take the point that if a risk can be avoided - why not? But I don't actually have to drive a car. I live and work in cities, plenty of dreary public transport.
Some idiot trapped his hand in a safe door where I was doing an audit. Four "health and safety" bods arrived to assess future risks. My suggestion of a brain transplant was dismissed.
I suppose my point is - let us morons kill ourselves. The gene pool would be better off. Then the world will belong to the very careful. We will be living in caves though.