No Condom Fill

[Roger]

This may or may not be of interest/useful to you, delete as appropriate.

I read on another forum a while ago of someone saying they do not bother pre filling a carto before using in a tank. On thinking about this I had noticed that the top of my carto was dry looking when in a tank (not slushy as when using out of a tank)

So punched my carto (Boge in a Lil Mama) twice and fitted to tank, filled tank and took about 6 sharpish dry hits, a good number of bubbles came out of the holes so juice was getting in. Left for about 5 mins and vaped. Perfect, no dry hits, burnt taste at all.

Done this for my last 3 carto's now and works every time (juice level drops a bit quicker on first fill, to be expected).

Just saves a bit of faff and you don't have to blow through the carto before use.

[ragjoy]

i guess you would know fairly quickly if its wicking the juice as the tank would be half empty after a few minutes, but as the level of the tank drops would the wicking only pull up to the level of the reducing juice in the tank then would you not have too keep topping up the tank till the juice in the carto reaches the top of the carto.

raggy..........

[DiscoDes]

Yup I shove a new carto in dry, fill my tank take a few chugs before presing the button and it works fine for me.

[Roger]

Feb 28, 2012 16:57:49 GMT ragjoy said:

i guess you would know fairly quickly if its wicking the juice as the tank would be half empty after a few minutes, but as the level of the tank drops would the wicking only pull up to the level of the reducing juice in the tank then would you not have too keep topping up the tank till the juice in the carto reaches the top of the carto.

raggy..........

Why do you want the juice to reach the top of the carto? The coil is in the middle or at the bottom, the juice only needs to wick toward the coil, not well above it otherwise you would punch holes at the top of the carto.

[Roger]

Feb 28, 2012 16:59:23 GMT DiscoDes said:

Yup I shove a new carto in dry, fill my tank take a few chugs before presing the button and it works fine for me.

Good. Just seems to save the faff and mess of condom filling.

[ragjoy]

Feb 28, 2012 17:06:58 GMT Roger said:

Feb 28, 2012 16:57:49 GMT ragjoy said:

i guess you would know fairly quickly if its wicking the juice as the tank would be half empty after a few minutes, but as the level of the tank drops would the wicking only pull up to the level of the reducing juice in the tank then would you not have too keep topping up the tank till the juice in the carto reaches the top of the carto.

raggy..........

Why do you want the juice to reach the top of the carto? The coil is in the middle or at the bottom, the juice only needs to wick toward the coil, not well above it otherwise you would punch holes at the top of the carto.

i was just asking, i assumed a full fully soaked carto performs better.

raggy...........

[Roger]

Sorry raggy didn't mean to sound offhand

I agree a fully soaked carto performs better outside of a tank, but in the tank perhaps it takes what it needs. I dunno, but it seems to work OK, try it it's only 1 carto

[ragjoy]

Feb 28, 2012 17:57:41 GMT Roger said:

Sorry raggy didn't mean to sound offhand

I agree a fully soaked carto performs better outside of a tank, but in the tank perhaps it takes what it needs. I dunno, but it seems to work OK, try it it's only 1 carto

no offence taken roger
i just thought id read that a carto must be at an early stage fully soaked, i will give this a go though and see how it goes.

raggy.........

[PeeKay]

I first saw Blakey mention this method on this very forum - and I've been using it ever since. Saved me loads of faffing around, and my carto's appear to live longer as well now (it was one a week!).

Interestingly (or not, delete as applicable), I've found that Boges work better in tank setups than Kangers do, and that standard resistance is longer lived than low resistance.

Your mileage may vary...

[ragjoy]

i get 3 to 6 days from my LR boges, ive only ever used the condom method.
so i dont get great mileage from them compared to what i read here and elsewhere, most just go very wimpy and a few get really tight.
i will give this method a go just to see if it increases life and performance.
its not really a hassle to me to condom fill, i generally syringe the tank fill the condom and carry on vaping with no juice in the tank for 30 mins or so then just pop it straight through and fill up the lil mama.

raggy...........

[Perpetua]

I've never used the condom method for carto filling in a Tank or otherwise.

But I guess it's what works for you, the less faff the better for me.

[ragjoy]

well ive tried this no condom method on the last 2 boges ive used.
it hasnt improved the life of them but it is as stated a bit less hassle.
i wonder if although pg soaks in better/quicker does it kill them quicker as ive yet to have one that was good after 5 days, ok but not good.
not a problem as there cheap as chips but just wondering.

raggy...........

[Roger]

Mar 7, 2012 17:51:58 GMT ragjoy said:

well ive tried this no condom method on the last 2 boges ive used.
it hasnt improved the life of them but it is as stated a bit less hassle.
i wonder if although pg soaks in better/quicker does it kill them quicker as ive yet to have one that was good after 5 days, ok but not good.
not a problem as there cheap as chips but just wondering.

raggy...........

Yes I only get about 5 days, occasionally a week. I don't think there is really anything you can do to extend the life, when their gone, their gone.

[ragjoy]

Mar 7, 2012 17:56:45 GMT Roger said:

Mar 7, 2012 17:51:58 GMT ragjoy said:

well ive tried this no condom method on the last 2 boges ive used.
it hasnt improved the life of them but it is as stated a bit less hassle.
i wonder if although pg soaks in better/quicker does it kill them quicker as ive yet to have one that was good after 5 days, ok but not good.
not a problem as there cheap as chips but just wondering.

raggy...........

Yes I only get about 5 days, occasionally a week. I don't think there is really anything you can do to extend the life, when their gone, their gone.

3 days is about my average, generally im not happy with them after that, it takes the pleasure out of them once the ompph is gone.

raggy..........