Evic VT

[blakey]

Jun 22, 2015 14:25:27 GMT VapingBad said:

Jun 22, 2015 13:11:56 GMT blakey said:

Had they been wired in parallel then we would have cause for concern if there was no balancer to the charging circuits

You need a balancer for series batteries even more than parallel IMO and would avoid any mod using series batteries that didn't have individual cell monitoring, in parallel they will all be at the same voltage all the time.

100 % correct - series and parallel ass about face as usual
It's my understanding though that the vt has a balance board fitted?

But saying that I also read somewhere that they were in fact li-ion batteries

[blakey]

I believe this is the company supplying them www.joysunenergy.com/en/productdetail.php?id=1

[DiscoDes]

Jun 22, 2015 13:54:43 GMT richo71 said:

Jun 21, 2015 20:25:32 GMT tim said:

There seems to be a lot of rumours going around about this mod csmith10. I heard a lot of bad stuff said about almost everything I own (vape gear and other), so I never trust 100% what I hear/read. For what it costs, it's worth a punt IMHO. For the looks alone. This is not a dig at you, just personal experience.

I agree but not for the rrp of £84.99 i have seen it around the £69 mark and it is worth a punt at that, just about, at the rrp it's SnoWolf money and i dont need to say anything else 

All I will say is that there are "deals" out there that make it a much more attractive proposition than £69.

Let's also not forget this is for the full kit, which includes, the atomiser, A titanium coil head, a nickel coil head, a skin, a wall charger and last but not least a USB cable.

The Ego One Mega as a stand alone atomiser is around the £19 mark.

[csmith10]

Jun 22, 2015 16:43:34 GMT DiscoDes said:

Jun 22, 2015 13:54:43 GMT richo71 said:

I agree but not for the rrp of £84.99 i have seen it around the £69 mark and it is worth a punt at that, just about, at the rrp it's SnoWolf money and i dont need to say anything else 

All I will say is that there are "deals" out there that make it a much more attractive proposition than £69.

Let's also not forget this is for the full kit, which includes, the atomiser, A titanium coil head, a nickel coil head, a skin, a wall charger and last but not least a USB cable.

The Ego One Mega as a stand alone atomiser is around the £19 mark.

I've seen the stand alone mod for as little as $56 which makes it about £35. Almost worth a punt at that price

[ringading]

Jun 22, 2015 18:36:15 GMT csmith10 said:

Jun 22, 2015 16:43:34 GMT DiscoDes said:

All I will say is that there are "deals" out there that make it a much more attractive proposition than £69.

Let's also not forget this is for the full kit, which includes, the atomiser, A titanium coil head, a nickel coil head, a skin, a wall charger and last but not least a USB cable.

The Ego One Mega as a stand alone atomiser is around the £19 mark.

I've seen the stand alone mod for as little as $56 which makes it about £35. Almost worth a punt at that price

£35 for a mod that has suspect firmware (Power Mode),  a battery installed which is not of the stated capacity and know a suspicion of no balancing for charging, a potential  safety hazard?
My belief is that this mod dose not comply with trading standards. Fit for purpose. As described.

[Greg]

Jun 22, 2015 20:12:13 GMT ringading said:

Jun 22, 2015 18:36:15 GMT csmith10 said:

I've seen the stand alone mod for as little as $56 which makes it about £35. Almost worth a punt at that price

£35 for a mod that has suspect firmware (Power Mode),  a battery installed which is not of the stated capacity and know a suspicion of no balancing for charging, a potential  safety hazard?
My belief is that this mod dose not comply with trading standards. Fit for purpose. As described.

My belief is there's more assumption than fact in this thread.

[csmith10]

Jun 22, 2015 20:17:53 GMT Greg said:

Jun 22, 2015 20:12:13 GMT ringading said:

£35 for a mod that has suspect firmware (Power Mode),  a battery installed which is not of the stated capacity and know a suspicion of no balancing for charging, a potential  safety hazard?
My belief is that this mod dose not comply with trading standards. Fit for purpose. As described.

My belief is there's more assumption than fact in this thread.

I must say I agree!

[Ripshod]

I've got to agree too. It's like the autopsy has already been done in here.

There's mods out there now, that exceed the safe limits of any battery available, yet peeps want to rip apart a mod on accusations that haven't YET been proved.

ETA: And not just this thread allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/55560/safety-issue-joytech-vt

[ringading]

I owned one for a few days before returning it to joyetech as I believed I had received a faulty unit
This is their reply.
After testing this is the reply.

We received your eVic VT in the offices and this has been tested now by our engineer which has given me the following result:

The temperature control seems very good to me, but it might be a question of having got used to lower powered VT devices that take a long time to reach temperature. Turning down the initial start power is a good idea for customers that find the initially fast rise a bit too savage.

In Power (wattage) mode, the first time the button is pressed after turning the device on, or fitting a new coil, the eVic VT runs through an atomizer test sequence that applies 25-40W initial power for a very short period (0.75 to 1.5 seconds depending on atomizer resistance). This test establishes whether the fitted atomizer is VT capable or not, and is performed once only after a new atomizer is fitted or the device is powered up. For all subsequent button presses the device goes straight to the correct voltage. We have tried to burn out a number of different coil designs by repeatedly removing and refitting atomizers to an eVic VT, and although there is the odd crackle as the atomizer quickly warms up, we have not managed to cause any burning of coils or wicks in any atomizer we have tried.

In short, it’s a feature of the way they work.

I have owned and still own a few Joyetech Products. I purchased the VT on the strength of these. I have been vaping for a little over 4 years and in that time I have never had cause to return anything. This was the first.

[Ripshod]

I wouldn't rule out just yet that there was a problem with the VT you received.

My reason? The reply smells of sales speak. 'It's a feature of the way they work' just jumps out at me. Also would have been better if they'd actually sent you the report rather than interpreting it on your behalf.

25-40Watts just to test whether a coil is nickel or not? That would be suicide, admitting it is the bullet. No responsible manufacturer would release a mod that does that when there's the posibilty someone could just slap an 8 Watt tank on there.

I'm not saying they haven't messed up. What I'm saying is if it turns out they haven't when all this is freely visible who is going to get sued? We need PROOF or all it is is allegations.

The reply you posted is not engineering proof, just a 3rd hand practiced response.

^^^MY OPINION.^^^

The fact that they overspecced the battery is a worry that warrents investigation. Even though as vapers we only probably use ²/₃ of a cell's capacity, it should still be rectified. I doubt they will recall and refit all the ones that have been sold so far. More likely a small release on one of the many sites out there, just so they can say 'there, we admitted it' without too many potential customers actually reading - or even knowing about it.

We also need to clarify the battery management on this VT mod.

[phatfil]

problem is there have already been a few premature TC mod releases the smockM80 X Pro most notably (cos i bought 1).. which fall short of expectations. looks as if the smy50w TC box may also have a few "features" too which isnt boding well for the smy60w TC which should be just round the corner..

Its putting folk on their back foot expecting a fail prematurely perhaps??

[Ripshod]

It's not like me to be down on stuff like this. But I have to wonder.....

After the Smok fiasco how many of us are looking for problems?

Not putting anyone down or belittling things.

[Deleted]

I think a few manufacturers were caught on the back foot when the whole TC thing started.

And a few have rushed to market with.......lets say less than perfect offerings.

And some are definitely doing it better than others.

At the moment I still think the vaping community are 'beta testing' most of these mods.

[tim]

Jun 22, 2015 16:43:34 GMT DiscoDes said:

Jun 22, 2015 13:54:43 GMT richo71 said:

I agree but not for the rrp of £84.99 i have seen it around the £69 mark and it is worth a punt at that, just about, at the rrp it's SnoWolf money and i dont need to say anything else 

All I will say is that there are "deals" out there that make it a much more attractive proposition than £69.

Let's also not forget this is for the full kit, which includes, the atomiser, A titanium coil head, a nickel coil head, a skin, a wall charger and last but not least a USB cable.

The Ego One Mega as a stand alone atomiser is around the £19 mark.

This,

[tim]

Jun 22, 2015 20:17:53 GMT Greg said:

Jun 22, 2015 20:12:13 GMT ringading said:

£35 for a mod that has suspect firmware (Power Mode),  a battery installed which is not of the stated capacity and know a suspicion of no balancing for charging, a potential  safety hazard?
My belief is that this mod dose not comply with trading standards. Fit for purpose. As described.

My belief is there's more assumption than fact in this thread.

this,