What makes liquid harsh?

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 20:44:06 GMT phatfil said:

i dont know anything, but suspect if you have a sensitivity to PG even 95% VG juice may have enough PG to aggravate you??

and if you can develop a sensitivity to PG after using it happily before?? i dunno that either??

perhaps try some 100%vg juice if you can, you can get 100% VG based concentrate, chefs vapour perhaps?? if no one chips in with it i have a bottle of VG concentrate in the cupboard i bought in a bundle off the classifieds in here,, and I will dig it out for the makers..
  OK SCRUB ALL THAT IF YOUR VAPING 50/50 CUSTARD HAPPILY.... I will get me coat..

Yeah 50/50 is my go to ratio. I started on that and whilst I don't mind 70/30 etc I generally stick to 50/50

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 20:41:22 GMT tim said:

Jul 28, 2015 20:27:46 GMT Jerri said:

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

I was jesting, as you know, but.....different mods give different ohms readings, so they will supply different tastes. This is caused by them reading x ohms and supplying power for that, rather than what you are used to. Even two identical mods may read differently, it's an issue that you need to adapt to. 20w on one mod will be different to 20w on another if it reads the ohms different (sometimes, even if ohms are the same). It will give you different power. The same happens with tanks, but to a lesser degree, as there is resistance in the tank/dripper itself. You may just need to turn down the watts a bit to get a smoother vape.

I did try dropping the watts down to 12 when vapour basically completely dropped off.

Maybe I've packed too much wick in?

I'll give the oc coils a a go later and see how that goes.

[MrDJ]

ive got 175ml of devilicious steeping but only got a tank left of grants custard. thank fek his sale is on again on friday. double the price of devilicious but its got to be done and will be ordering another 100ml

i didnt like grahams custard much and mrs bees was yuk at first but its slowly growing on me after 8 weeks steep.

prices for imports are crazy and i thought id have a change last weekend. bought 30ml kilo dewberry cream and 15ml space jam pluto and i still prefer drip drops £5 melon

oh well

NEXT.

[Perpetua]

Jul 28, 2015 20:27:46 GMT Jerri said:

Jul 28, 2015 19:57:52 GMT tim said:

Maybe you just need to buy an isub g tank and an iStick 50w Jerri

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

sonicflowjoe has had some success re-building them Jerri:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/56410/used-isub-coils?page=1&scrollTo=979037

Andy says they last for ages as well:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/55983/news-flash-isub-head-change?page=1

[tim]

Jul 28, 2015 20:54:33 GMT Jerri said:

Jul 28, 2015 20:41:22 GMT tim said:

I was jesting, as you know, but.....different mods give different ohms readings, so they will supply different tastes. This is caused by them reading x ohms and supplying power for that, rather than what you are used to. Even two identical mods may read differently, it's an issue that you need to adapt to. 20w on one mod will be different to 20w on another if it reads the ohms different (sometimes, even if ohms are the same). It will give you different power. The same happens with tanks, but to a lesser degree, as there is resistance in the tank/dripper itself. You may just need to turn down the watts a bit to get a smoother vape.

I did try dropping the watts down to 12 when vapour basically completely dropped off.

Maybe I've packed too much wick in?

I'll give the oc coils a a go later and see how that goes.

Maybe you just have a fruit intolerance Jerri? Coz now I'm stuck with ideas.

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 21:04:02 GMT Perpetua said:

Jul 28, 2015 20:27:46 GMT Jerri said:

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

sonicflowjoe has had some success re-building them Jerri:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/56410/used-isub-coils?page=1&scrollTo=979037

Andy says they last for ages as well:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/55983/news-flash-isub-head-change?page=1

Stop it!!

I do not need an iSub G.....I do not need an iSub G.......

I've over spent loads this month, O really don't need one....do I

hahah

[Perpetua]

Jul 28, 2015 21:33:52 GMT Jerri said:

Jul 28, 2015 21:04:02 GMT Perpetua said:

sonicflowjoe has had some success re-building them Jerri:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/56410/used-isub-coils?page=1&scrollTo=979037

Andy says they last for ages as well:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/55983/news-flash-isub-head-change?page=1

Stop it!!

I do not need an iSub G.....I do not need an iSub G.......

I've over spent loads this month, O really don't need one....do I

hahah

Are you really, quite quite sure Jerri . . . . . .

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 21:35:38 GMT Perpetua said:

Jul 28, 2015 21:33:52 GMT Jerri said:

Stop it!!

I do not need an iSub G.....I do not need an iSub G.......

I've over spent loads this month, O really don't need one....do I

hahah

Are you really, quite quite sure Jerri . . . . . .

Yes, absolutely.......until next month hahaha

Just tried the OC coil. No luck with that either.

It's fine on the inhale lovely flavour, like pear and black current jelly babies (ace of vapes yoda babies) then on the exhale it tears at my throat and feels really dry. And after a few vapes it just makes me cough.

Strangely though it's less harsh on the 0.5ohm oc coil at 25w than it is on my own home made 1.4ohm coil at 16 watts.

Could it be the wicking material? I use rayon. Would trying cotton help or am I really clutching at straws here?

Are the OC heads okay to just rinse and leave to dry? The plan was to keep them for if I was in a rush or couldn't be bothered one day.

[Jerri]

Okay so the oc coil has bedded in and now it's absolutely fine. No dryness. No harshness.

I also swapped it from the 40w istick to the smok m80.

What madness is this?

How can something be too harsh on a 1.4ohm coil at 16 watts but not on a 0.5 (it's reading as 0.6) ohm coil at 23 watts.

[Perpetua]

Jul 28, 2015 21:49:46 GMT Jerri said:

Could it be the wicking material? I use rayon. Would trying cotton help or am I really clutching at straws here?

Although I'm fine with rayon, it can be a little ' bitty ' perhaps . . . . I'd certainly try some cottonwool - if only to eliminate another possibility Jerri.

[tim]

I don't think it's the wicking material Jerri. Custards seem, to me, to like lower watts. So the higher ohms would give you that. Maybe you need to lower the ohms to enjoy fruits. Most juice has an optimum temperature, fruits work well hot, custards lower in my experience.

[decoy]

ive had big probs with harsh juice from my main suppler just recently
its been sorted now tg
it might be a bad batch try taking it back to the shop and see if its the same as you tried

[Jerri]

Jul 28, 2015 22:02:41 GMT tim said:

I don't think it's the wicking material Jerri. Custards seem, to me, to like lower watts. So the higher ohms would give you that. Maybe you need to lower the ohms to enjoy fruits. Most juice has an optimum temperature, fruits work well hot, custards lower in my experience.

Yeah I always found custard to me taste better at lower watts.

I don't think I have the right wire to make a sub ohm coil. .32 kanthal and I have the 2.5 and 3mm coil jigs. I do 6/7 wraps around the 3mm and get roughly 1.4ohms.

Still I don't mind buying a pack of the 0.5ohm OC coils to save messing about.

[Jerri]

The liquid now taste absolutely lovely on the OC coil at 23 watts. No harshness. No dryness.

What madness is this!!!

[sonicflowjoe]

Jul 28, 2015 21:04:02 GMT Perpetua said:

Jul 28, 2015 20:27:46 GMT Jerri said:

I actually contemplated buying the iSub but I've just moved over to rebuilding so don't fancy going back to buying coils.

I've got the 40w istick haha. That's close enough.

sonicflowjoe has had some success re-building them Jerri:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/56410/used-isub-coils?page=1&scrollTo=979037

Andy says they last for ages as well:

allaboute-cigarettes.proboards.com/thread/55983/news-flash-isub-head-change?page=1

If you can rebuild an occ @jerri I'd say you should be able to manage an Isub coil, its a piece of cake once you get in to it. That's the trickiest bit as they are press fitted together. Simplest way I've found to do it is to get two smallish but strong screwdrivers, one that will fit through the wick holes and one that will fit through the air slot at the bottom. Then just work them in opposite directions whilst giving a little wiggle and it will pop apart. To get it together again just get it all lined up and apply pressure with something solid.

I might try and get it together to write a little guide at some point with pics as you get a great vape off these tanks and a bonus that the heads CAN be rebuilt if you put your mind to it.

Don't want to be responsible for you shelling out on another new tank but... Just giving you the info since I was tagged in.

You must resist.... RESIST.. .lol