starting out

[peter12]

So as I knew I would I am looking to start at mixing. Not looking to experiment just buy juice concentrates I like.

Banoffee from chefs is £7.50 per 30ml. How much juice would this make at 3% nic?

Also what are the essential pieces of equipment/liquids I would need?

Finally if I was to make the juice 70/30 vg/pg instead of 50/50 is this going to change the flavour?

[Greg]

What % concentrate do you intend to mix at, % nic is irrelevant in terms of how much 30ml of conc will make.

[phatfil]

lots of calculators for juice mixing on the web/ in app form, i use the one provided by this sitemix calc found on the top of page menu by the PM link

its pretty straightforward and self explanatory the only 'gotcha' that cuaght me was to see the post calculated results for the recipe need u to scroll down a bit on the page i must have recalculated my first recipe 10 times before the penny dropped DOH!!

[peter12]

Greg phatfil no idea about any of it sorry. Basic understanding that youox a few liquids in differing amounts and leave to steep. That's the extent of my knowledge sorry. So no idea how much banoffee conc I would need to use. If it helps this is one of the concs www.chefsvapour.co.uk/chefsvapour-concentrates/3447-30ml-banoffee-cookie-dough-concentrate.html

They do a few others I like too

[phatfil]

Ahh sorry,, wrong end of the stick..

from the chefs vapour web site

A delicious Banoffee Pie Flavour.

PG Based

Recommened % = 5-15%

so between 5-15% depending on your taste,, so try a diddy mix @ 10 % and see if u want more or less flavour

[phatfil]

[peter12]

So at 10% it would make 300ml total?

So I would need nic base
Syringe
Any old bottle cleaned will do I guess
Also of pg / vg doesn't affect taste then that %mix will be om cost I think although generally I like 70/30.

And what would be the final cost per 50 ml? Currently I pay £21 delivered for 50ml

[phatfil]

thereabouts if 10% is to your taste?? if you like it stronger? .. less (down to 200ml @15%). Or weaker?? more(upto 600ml if @ 5%)..

upto £18 for 200-250ml 72% nic base (pg base is more manageable, vg is thicker..)

circa £2 for 250ml of Boots/superdrug VG

PG circa £8 a litre - amazon

ebay for syringes, cost ?? i ebayed glass syringes which cost a bit more but dont loose gradient ink with washing

latex gloves are advised for handling nic base,

[peter12]

So I can go into boots and just ask for vegetable glycerin or glycerol I always forget which lol.
Amazon for pg
syringes eBay
Nic base from?

£18 for 200+ ml is awesome!

[phatfil]

i got my 1st nic base from totally wicked i cant reccomend em.. last lot i got was from www.piratesvape.uk/ not the cheapest but he posts in here and boasts top quality and no one has called him on it

afaik you can buy cheaper from other uk vendors with good reps too..

edit with boots - order online and pick up locally to ensure, its hit n miss if its on the shelf.. 

[Deleted]

peter12 ... I would suggest reading through the excellent diy for beginners guides at the beginning of the mixology board to get a gist of the basics.

[peter12]

@yinyang good advice. Just read through it.

phatfil boots have value health glycerin at £1.39 for 200 ml is this what you meant ? If not pirates do it for a reasonable price

Then ill grab few different syringes and conc from chefs

And nic, pg and vg from pirates vape

[Perpetua]

Lots of us use the VG from Boots peter12 . . . . it's normally located with the cough medicines.

Lubrisolve are another source of VG and PG:

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/161112924693?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1-LITRE-MONOPROPYLENE-GLYCOL-MPG-USP-EP-GRADE-/281692875180?hash=item41963429ac

[Deleted]

this is a very basic and good in the same time e-juice calculator www.todmuller.com/ejuice/ejuice.php --- but is an only one plavor choice-----

if you plan to sub ohm vape i recommend low lvl of nicotine ( max 6mg/mi ) and to read what @yinyang recommended to you . My mixes are at 50/50 pg/vg or 40/60 pg/vg because i like soft vape , the more pg you add to your mix the stronger will be the throat hit . Throat hit will be amplified if you increase wattage . With patience playing with wattage you will find also the sweet spot of your mix ,... sweet spot is possible to don't be the same in 2 different kind of tanks even you use same ohm and same wattage . peter12 .... also apologize because of grammar ...

[peter12]

Perpetua the boots product I found was the right or wrong one? Will have to look for their pg too then. Although the prices at pirates vape on vg pg seemed pretty reasonable. £7.50 a litre for pg or vg. Nic was £13 for 100ml so not sure on value. But phatfil said they produce quality products. However the aim is to make the juice for low cost

@chris2005 I generally prefer higher vg and 3mg nic. I know what I'm looking for in the product. Was just unsure how to get there