Provari 2.5 or P3

[SteveF]

I have a Zencote P3 in gunmetal, kind of fell by the wayside but I think it will still be operating normally long after my other mods die.
Issues, minor but niggly

the P3 connection is an utter pain if you use the 510 adapter. the centre thread sticks and comes away with the attached to the atty and it's best to turn the beauty ring over to stop that from sticking too.

Dirt, the tube threads are crud magnets and it can knock 10% off the battery and 10 to 20% off the IQ meter it's own efficiency and connection quality reader. But once spotlessly clean it can be a swine to get undone.

A normal sized stainless atty makes it top heavy, stand it up... it falls over again and again. the best tank I have put on it is a Goblin mini, it makes it manageable even at full length with 18650s.

the menu is a bit naff as is the single button, adjusting settings is a slow process.

If I were to go for another Provari the radius would be at the top of my list. extra buttons, fewer connections and a those extra watts.

[letsavit]

Got a P3 titanium in gunmetal, is class and the only non temp control regulated mod I now own

[VE Jason]

Nov 5, 2015 21:15:59 GMT Greg said:

Nov 5, 2015 19:33:48 GMT VE Jason said:

I'm nearly certain we haven't got any left, but yes - you can get them now (maybe Crème de Vape).

How certain are you, you haven't got any ProVarinati end caps left 

I will double check on Monday...but I am pretty certain

I've just started clearing out my drawers and cabinets though - so you never know

[blakey]

The provari was at the top of its game when it was released and it reigned supreme for a good long time- very well built and very accurate
I jumped on the P3 as soon as it was released, same build quality and same accuracy but a pain in the ass menu system. Easy enough to navigate but laborious.
It's now sitting gathering dust, the promised temperature control firmware update never materialised and I became dejected with it.
I think that it will be the last tube mod that I buy.
I hoped that the radius would take provape back to the top but their offering is way behind everything else and nothing more than a box version of the P3.

Still, if you vape within its power range then it is a very solid performing device, out of the 2.5 & the P3 I would go for the P3
Reasoning would be that you get the ability to run 18500 & 18650, you get the option to use the much more stable and stronger P3 connector if you have an attie with that capability, it's more customisable and you don't need a beauty ring to allow 22mm atties to sit without overhang.

[VE Jason]

Nov 7, 2015 21:45:48 GMT blakey said:

I think that it will be the last tube mod that I buy.

[VE Jason]

Nov 7, 2015 21:45:48 GMT blakey said:

Still, if you vape within its power range

On a more serious note - that is around 95% of the vapers in the world, but probably around 20%-30% of the forum vapers

[blakey]

Nov 7, 2015 21:59:46 GMT VE Jason said:

Nov 7, 2015 21:45:48 GMT blakey said:

Still, if you vape within its power range

On a more serious note - that is around 95% of the vapers in the world, but probably around 20%-30% of the forum vapers

On a standard single coil kanthal build I vape well within its power range but I do like to take a trip into the multiple coil silly ohms and crazy power room in the evenings - but temperature controlled

[VE Jason]

Nov 7, 2015 22:06:20 GMT blakey said:

Nov 7, 2015 21:59:46 GMT VE Jason said:

On a more serious note - that is around 95% of the vapers in the world, but probably around 20%-30% of the forum vapers

On a standard single coil kanthal build I vape well within its power range but I do like to take a trip into the multiple coil silly ohms and crazy power room in the evenings - but temperature controlled

Yes - you know I'm not knocking you really - but, TC simply doesn't apply or isn't required by the majority.

I've been vaping for 5 years now and I can count the number of dry hits on one hand - and I'm pretty sure every one of those will have been a carto, rather than a tank - simply because I couldn't see the liquid.

I suppose the point I was making is that Provape are catering for the majority rather than the minority - which is the way they stay in business.

[blakey]

Nov 7, 2015 22:13:12 GMT VE Jason said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:06:20 GMT blakey said:

On a standard single coil kanthal build I vape well within its power range but I do like to take a trip into the multiple coil silly ohms and crazy power room in the evenings - but temperature controlled

Yes - you know I'm not knocking you really - but, TC simply doesn't apply or isn't required by the majority.

I've been vaping for 5 years now and I can count the number of dry hits on one hand - and I'm pretty sure every one of those will have been a carto, rather than a tank - simply because I couldn't see the liquid.

I suppose the point I was making is that Provape are catering for the majority rather than the minority - which is the way they stay in business.

But surely at that price range they would make a mod that was capable of everything

[VE Jason]

Nov 7, 2015 22:28:03 GMT blakey said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:13:12 GMT VE Jason said:

Yes - you know I'm not knocking you really - but, TC simply doesn't apply or isn't required by the majority.

I've been vaping for 5 years now and I can count the number of dry hits on one hand - and I'm pretty sure every one of those will have been a carto, rather than a tank - simply because I couldn't see the liquid.

I suppose the point I was making is that Provape are catering for the majority rather than the minority - which is the way they stay in business.

But surely at that price range they would make a mod that was capable of everything

I don't know - but, it has to be based on their manufacturing costs - not China manufacturing costs and then with their mark-up added.

Apples and Oranges

[blakey]

Nov 7, 2015 22:37:05 GMT VE Jason said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:28:03 GMT blakey said:

But surely at that price range they would make a mod that was capable of everything

I don't know - but, it has to be based on their manufacturing costs - not China manufacturing costs and then with their mark-up added.

Apples and Oranges

I would agree in principle but we're talking about probably an extra $15 production cost for the board, mass produced it will be less.

Blooming provari fan boys


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[Greg]

Nov 7, 2015 22:28:03 GMT blakey said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:13:12 GMT VE Jason said:

Yes - you know I'm not knocking you really - but, TC simply doesn't apply or isn't required by the majority.

I've been vaping for 5 years now and I can count the number of dry hits on one hand - and I'm pretty sure every one of those will have been a carto, rather than a tank - simply because I couldn't see the liquid.

I suppose the point I was making is that Provape are catering for the majority rather than the minority - which is the way they stay in business.

But surely at that price range they would make a mod that was capable of everything

Provape have stated they won't implement TC until it works correctly. And by that I assume they mean it's not a faff as many of have experienced with with poor connections etc.
as Jason said Provape aim to cater for the majority and want their devices to just work every time and in my experience they do a pretty good job of delivering that.

[blakey]

Nov 7, 2015 22:47:01 GMT Greg said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:28:03 GMT blakey said:

But surely at that price range they would make a mod that was capable of everything

Provape have stated they won't implement TC until it works correctly. And by that I assume they mean it's not a faff as many of have experienced with with poor connections etc.
as Jason said Provape aim to cater for the majority and want their devices to just work every time and in my experience they do a pretty good job of delivering that.

Sounds like sour grapes cos they never thought of it first

Blooming provari fan boys

[Greg]

Nov 7, 2015 23:00:18 GMT blakey said:

Nov 7, 2015 22:47:01 GMT Greg said:

Provape have stated they won't implement TC until it works correctly. And by that I assume they mean it's not a faff as many of have experienced with with poor connections etc.
as Jason said Provape aim to cater for the majority and want their devices to just work every time and in my experience they do a pretty good job of delivering that.

Sounds like sour grapes cos they never thought of it first

Blooming provari fan boys

Maybe they did think of it first but as its $hite they left it alone 

Still im happy you have little personalised logos on your mod, I'm sure it improves the VAPE no end. Bleeding Evolv fan boys 

[blakey]

Nov 7, 2015 23:05:52 GMT Greg said:

Nov 7, 2015 23:00:18 GMT blakey said:

Sounds like sour grapes cos they never thought of it first

Blooming provari fan boys

Maybe they did think of it first but as its $hite they left it alone 

Still im happy you have little personalised logos on your mod, I'm sure it improves the VAPE no end. Bleeding Evolv fan boys 

Oi :oo
Hitting a man in his personalised logos is below the belt >:DD