Sub oms?

[catface26]

For me it just felt like natural progression. I started with a cigalike, then got an Ego-T setup, then I got a 20w istick and Nautilus, then a 30w istick and subtank Nano, then a subtank mini and started building my own coils, stayed with this for quite a while before getting a mechanical mod and dripper and now I've upgraded my mod and tank and have more tanks. All sub-ohm.

Maybe it's just the way my personal taste developed but I always thought sub-ohm kit was kind of at the forefront of vaping technology. That progression through different kit seems to be the standard for everyone that I know IRL who vapes.

[Ewol]

If you're going to use stock coils I hear the UWell crown is a great choice. Their stock coils are of a much higher quality.

[snow]

I'm the same as Perpetua I thought sub-ohm wasn't likely to be for me either - until I tried it and now I find myself reaching for the subtank with a .5 coil more often than my trusty protanks/aerotanks with their 1.4 - 1.8 coils. I dislike a warm vape intensely but the subtanks have such a great airflow that I don't find the vape at all warm - I've even gone from a wide open airflow to the middle setting for a tighter draw with no increase in warmth. I'm also a mouth to lung vaper and find subtanks are fine for this provided you use a wide bore drip tip flavourwise subohm is for me ideal for sweeter custard vapes with high vg. I know some of my liquids don't suit sub-ohming but others transformed when vaped at a higher wattage. As someone who rarely vaped over 5w I now find myself in the 12w -16w range and am loving it - for me its not about clouds its alllll about the flavour.

[Perpetua]

Dec 22, 2015 10:13:30 GMT snow said:

subohm is for me ideal for sweeter custard vapes with high vg. I know some of my liquids don't suit sub-ohming but others transformed when vaped at a higher wattage.

Just goes to show how different all our tastes are snow, as I don't like Custard with subohms! 

Strips the creaminess out I find, so I'm still wedded to a Nautilus or Protank for those . . . . but Fruit and Aniseed Blends, it's perfect for my tastes and are all I use now with them.

Having a choice is the best part, clouds don't come into it either for me.

[drunkenbum]

I vape subohm most of the time but only because I like temp control. I do enjoy my subtanks but at the same time I do enjoy using my kayfun at times.
Right now for instance I'm puffing on a protank on a cloupor mini+ with a 2 ohm coil in and enjoying it immensly.
I enjoy the variation I get between all my different gear ( and I've got plenty), different vaping styles for different moods.

[lobeydosser]

One of the most important items that I missed off my list was "duration".

The last thing I do each night, before bed, is to make up my following day's unit. A fully charged Istick and a Nautilus tank full of e-juice.
Just knowing that I now have all the components for a good 20+ hours vaping is the Bees Knees.

So whilst I understand the comments of "don't knock it until you try it", I am still not convinced that sub ohming is worth spending more money on when I already have what I think is the perfect set up for me.

Oh, and having spent a small fortune already, developing a veggie garden, I can think of a hundred ways to spend any extra money I have stashed away.

[johnboy]

Dec 22, 2015 11:51:39 GMT lobeydosser said:

One of the most important items that I missed off my list was "duration".

The last thing I do each night, before bed, is to make up my following day's unit. A fully charged Istick and a Nautilus tank full of e-juice.
Just knowing that I now have all the components for a good 20+ hours vaping is the Bees Knees.

So whilst I understand the comments of "don't knock it until you try it", I am still not convinced that sub ohming is worth spending more money on when I already have what I think is the perfect set up for me.

Oh, and having spent a small fortune already, developing a veggie garden, I can think of a hundred ways to spend any extra money I have stashed away.

After reading the above I think I to will stick with what I have, thanks for all the Imput .
I would imagine that the sub om drinks your juice ???

Also it could drain your batteries quicker ????
Have a good Xmas all and thanks to AAEc for getting me off the fags for 3 years .

[catface26]

Dec 22, 2015 11:51:39 GMT lobeydosser said:

One of the most important items that I missed off my list was "duration".

The last thing I do each night, before bed, is to make up my following day's unit. A fully charged Istick and a Nautilus tank full of e-juice.
Just knowing that I now have all the components for a good 20+ hours vaping is the Bees Knees.

So whilst I understand the comments of "don't knock it until you try it", I am still not convinced that sub ohming is worth spending more money on when I already have what I think is the perfect set up for me.

Oh, and having spent a small fortune already, developing a veggie garden, I can think of a hundred ways to spend any extra money I have stashed away.

I thought i was more than happy with my Nautilus/istick combo until I tried a subtank and I was blown away by the flavour. I never looked back.

[lobeydosser]

Hi catface26 and all you others that are sub-ohming, how much reduction in battery duration are you experiencing.
I cannot imagine that I would get the same length of battery life out of a 30 or 40w Istick as I get from the 20w.

All I ever read about is the improved taste and the massive amounts of vapour.
No one mentions any downsides which I am sure there is.

[mikedidthis]

Swings and roundabouts. You will use more juice and more battery power, but in return the vapour is more dense and flavourful, so you vape less.

My girlfriend is a mouth to lung hitter. When she tried my sub ohm set up, she hated it. However over a few days she kept stealing my setup and learned to take direct lung hit.

She now wants her own sub ohm setup and won't even touch her mouth to lung set up. Like most things vaping each persons experience is different.

Think back to when you started on carts and then got an ego and were blown away. Same kinda story.

[drunkenbum]

Dec 22, 2015 15:03:02 GMT lobeydosser said:

Hi catface26 and all you others that are sub-ohming, how much reduction in battery duration are you experiencing.
I cannot imagine that I would get the same length of battery life out of a 30 or 40w Istick as I get from the 20w.

All I ever read about is the improved taste and the massive amounts of vapour.
No one mentions any downsides which I am sure there is.

It does cause a large increase in juice consumption but as I mix my own that doesn't bother me.
With the likes of a subtank mini or innokin isub that are quite happy between 20 and 30 watts the battery life isn't bad.
Some of the tanks that require more power like the Crown or the TFV4 will drain batteries far quicker but if you are running at 70-80 watts then ideally you want to be using a dual battery mod anyway

[snow]

Haven't really noticed a huge difference in how long a 30w istick lasts between the ones I use to subohm and the ones with my protanks but then I do have 5 isticks and an mvp on the go at the same time and tend to charge up via the pc whilst I sit here anyway. I do think the juice consumption is faster with the subtanks but then again I'm not vaping my other liquids as much so swings and roundabouts.

[catface26]

Dec 22, 2015 15:03:02 GMT lobeydosser said:

Hi catface26 and all you others that are sub-ohming, how much reduction in battery duration are you experiencing.
I cannot imagine that I would get the same length of battery life out of a 30 or 40w Istick as I get from the 20w.

All I ever read about is the improved taste and the massive amounts of vapour.
No one mentions any downsides which I am sure there is.

Battery life will always be shorter the higher wattages you vape at. I always use mods with interchangeable batteries though and an external charger so I always have at least 3 fully charged batteries ready. If I go out for the evening I do take a a number of spares depending on how long I'm out for.
If it's just a regular work day though and I'm not going anywhere after work, a single 18650 will last 12 hours ish and that's vaping at 50w all day.

[lobeydosser]

It took me over 2 years to find a set up that I could pick up in the morning and use it to vape all day until bedtime.
Then fill the tank again and with a newly charged Istick, know that I had the same for the following day.
Indeed, even if I forget to charge and refill the night before, there will still be enough power and juice to get me through until about lunchtime the following day.

To now buy a set up that did not give me a full days vaping on a single tank or me having to carry spare batteries would be a serious backward step.
So whilst some of you look at sub ohming as a natural progression in vaping, to me, looking from the outside, it appears to be 3 steps backwards for one step forwards.

[catface26]

I guess it depends what your priorities are. If you favour convenience of not carrying any spare juice or batteries over raw performance then sub-ohmimg may well not be for you. For me I don't find it inconvenient. A unicorn bottle and a couple of batteries in a pocket/bag is unnoticeable to me.

I occasionally take my mechanical mod and dripper out for the day which needs topping up with juice every 4 hits and gets through at least 3 batteries.