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Post by digicig on Jan 12, 2016 10:23:21 GMT
My search for 'Authentic' vaping products in China continues. Having had fast gunking problems with the 'USP' PG i bough, i've been looking around to try and source an alternative - and discovered this on a more vaping base taobao.com shop.
Aroma Zone Organic VG - Aroma-zone是法国的知名有机芳香品牌,是一家以纯天然植物及有机植物为原料的精油及护肤品公司。其全系列产品是一个完整的有机系列品牌。目前有着150种单方精油、40种以上的植物油、纯露和其他高品质的天然提取物及有机护肤化妆品等产品。其始终坚持挑选野生植物或权威机构认证的有机作物或绿色生态植物为基础原料,所供应的产品皆具有完全的信息标签:包括植物名称、化学分子、萃取方式、植物来源、栽培类型、批次编号(确保产品可追溯性)、有效日期。每一批次产品都会由实验室进行成份分析检测,以保证质量和纯度,其产品通过了欧盟有机认证、法国有机种植认证、法国COSMEBIO认证和欧盟有机食品认证。
- which badly translated (courtesy of microsoft translate) = Aroma-zone is France's leading organic aromatic brand, is a pure natural plant and essential oils of organic plant materials, and skin care company. Its full range of products is a complete range of organic brand. Currently there are 150 essential oils, more than 40 kinds of vegetable oils, hydrosols and other extracts from high quality natural and organic skin care and cosmetic products. Insists pick wild plants or authority certified organic crops or green plant based material, the products are supplied with full information tags: including plants, chemistry, extraction, plant origin, cultivation type, batch number (to ensure product traceability), effective date. Every batch of products will be detected by the laboratory for analysis, in order to ensure the quality and purity, and its products through the EU organic certification, France organic farming certification, France COSMEBIO organic foods certification and the EU certification.
It is possibly the nicest, fruitiest, tasting VG (on the tongue) that i've tried -anyone tried this for vaping before i do? Oh and the bottles that red colour the VG is clear LoL
For some reason can't add a pic or linkie at the moment - or emoticons
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Post by digicig on Jan 12, 2016 14:00:45 GMT
Of course - whilst i was waiting for anyone to respond - the temptation got the better of me - and an Authentic Aqua FX and Vaporesso kit arrived LoL So diluted some of my standard DIY - was about 8% - to about 4% - and filled up the tanks. Very viscous, so thick, i'll probably dilute it a bit in the future, and gives good clouds. i brought 500ml of premixed nic/VG/PG at 30mg and around 50/50, but could only find 'Authentic USP' PG when i was looking - so as i've diluted down to around 8% the PG ratio has climbed considerably. M+P's flavours are at least VG based. That tasty fruitiness has definitely come through in the Vape - not overpowering, but subtly in the background - which considering me standard has been a mix of Mom and Pop's Tobacco Praze and Calipitter Chow - is working pretty well. If i can't find replacement flavours over here - i could be OK with using just the diluted VG and nic see what i can source in Shenzhen
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Post by Perpetua on Jan 12, 2016 14:10:16 GMT
Not me digicig . . . . we're spoilt for choice here as you know on Vendors for the stuff - though personally Boots VG does me nicely. Our jess may have tried it though, being a French citizen.
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Post by digicig on Jan 12, 2016 14:22:09 GMT
Well it was around £10 a litre posted - but seemed the 'safest' if legit. And if i can vape it with only nic - will work out cheaper than Boots VG (who don't pay their taxes anyway) and buying concentrates - which i'm dubious about over here - at least form taobao.com
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Post by digicig on Jan 12, 2016 14:26:24 GMT
Thanks Perpetua - for some reason i can't like add pictures or emoticons at the mo though - aside from the old shorcuts that is
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 17:04:50 GMT
Sorry, digicig & Perpetua, I can't advise as I haven't heard of, or used them.
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Post by dave on Jan 12, 2016 17:07:53 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 12, 2016 17:32:44 GMT
Thanks, dave, I looked them up, copied the link & then forgot to post it.
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Post by monty on Jan 13, 2016 3:04:57 GMT
I hate to pour cold water but... the fruity taste is either additives or impurities. Although it's not likely to be harmful - even if it is fruit oils (as it may well be) the amount is probably too little to worry about. If it is thicker than regular pharma grade VG then this is unequivocally due to impurities, who knows whether or not the impurities are harmful. Glycerol is glycerol and it has identical thickness (if nothing eg water is added) whether it is from organically grown crops, regularly farmed crops or originates from crude oil.
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Post by digicig on Jan 13, 2016 6:07:24 GMT
That's the one dave - seems legit OK almost twice the price here - but that's delivered - China does tax foreign imports heavily and i can live with it montyNot thicker than normal VG, just been using VG nic and PG as me mixer for so long, i'd forgotten how gloopy VG is It does taste 'clean' but 'natural' - an ever so slight edge of fruit or something sweet and non-chemically, compared to the Chinese bought 'USP' PG i purchased, which is clean but distinctly more 'chemically' in taste - if you know what i mean
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Post by digicig on Jan 23, 2016 15:03:12 GMT
I was getting black gunky wick and coils after as little as two and definitely 3 days, using a KST mini, which i hoped was down to the 'Authentic USP' PG i bought over here -still using Nicvape's nic and M+P's flavourings. Had the same problem using the pre-installed coil in the Aqua FX - so it wasn't just the KST or my building. I'd diluted my original 30mg nic/PG/VG down to about 9 using the Chinese PG - and then diluted that by half using the Aroma Zone VG - so now around 4.5mg = fine for Sub Ohming. And - more than a week on - and the juice is still flavoursome and not darkened too much - tomorrow i'll swap out the coil and take a look. But the vast improvement does suggest that the PG was the problem (and that the VG is at least OK).
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Post by JazzyJ on Jan 24, 2016 12:32:41 GMT
The blackening or gunking up wicks is usually Down to natural sugars In the liquid, The higher the natural sugar level the faster the coils gunk up, NETs naturally extracted tobaccos are usually the hardest on coils, then the VG heavy very sweet juices, (elements as an example) Iv also noticed if I use too much concentrate % wise in a DIY mix or am heavy handed with the EM it can have a bearing on how quick the coil sugars up,
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Post by digicig on Jan 24, 2016 14:52:36 GMT
I generally agree with that JazzyJ . Now i 've diluted the juice, but sill get the M+P's at roughly 10-15%, but as the first time it was diluted it was with the Chinese PG, i would have expected less 'gunking' as it became less VG. The opposite was true. This time, the last of me M+P's flavours went in, and diluted with VG, so i was expecting the problem to remain - but got a week out of coil with a lot less discolouration of the juice too?
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