Temperature Control - What am I doing wrong?

[xs2man]

Jan 15, 2016 18:15:38 GMT @spikeyfridge said:

Jan 15, 2016 18:08:51 GMT VapingBad said:

The main causes of a weak vape/temp limit cuts in too soon are (in no particular order):
poor wicking
poor airflow
not enough contact area between your coil and wick
putting the atty on warm and locking the resistance too high
high resistance in your atty or mod causing the board to believe the cold coil resistance is higher than it is
poor atty or 510 connection
coils that only touch and short between loops when they get hot

I know a few are obvious.

Generally I would keep wicks and wire thinner than with Kanthal.

So basically it depends which way the wind is blowing ?!?

Looks like it.

[VapingBad]

One of the issue those coil heads have is the wire just being trapped between a silicone ring and the coil body, I have even read about people soldering them.

Any way the wind blows just a learning curve like when you first learnt to build, it took me longer to get the Kayfun to work well every time with kanthal than it took me to get to gripe with temp limiting and there were not build videos or tutorials out ther then. I just put that list up so when it's not performing it gives you a quick check list, it is easy to focus on something that is not the problem and overlook the cause.

[Deleted]

Jan 15, 2016 18:46:52 GMT VapingBad said:

One of the issue those coil heads have is the wire just being trapped between a silicone ring and the coil body, I have even read about people soldering them.

Any way the wind blows just a learning curve like when you first learnt to build, it took me longer to get the Kayfun to work well every time with kanthal than it took me to get to gripe with temp limiting and there were not build videos or tutorials out ther then. I just put that list up so when it's not performing it gives you a quick check list, it is easy to focus on something that is not the problem and overlook the cause.

I'll get my coiling gear out ready for when you pop in for a glass of water next weekend I need to see you in action

[*-SARIN-*]

It took me a while to grasp the concept of TC but over time i've realised that you're not going to get the same sort of vape as a mod in power mode. Rather what you get with TC is the same vape every time without the liquid changing as the temperature of the coil keeps increasing. It is definitely better than power mode at giving a consistent flavoured vape but i agree that it takes some getting used to after swapping. Each to their own but most people miss the higher temperature of the vape that they get using power mode.

[Greg]

Must admit ive been totally underwhelmed by TC. To be fair I probably never persevered enough with it but then if it's too much of a faff I don't see the point.

I use kanthal, it's a doddle to use. That's good enough for me

[Deleted]

Much the same here Greg. Had a go at it on three separate occasions, sub tank, velocity, crius, result :- failure and frustration, what a ballache. Back to kanthal and Muji for a faff free satisfying vape.

[juicehead]

Jan 15, 2016 17:14:10 GMT VapingBad said:

When you get, I find you can run more power through an atty than with Kanthal plus get a much much quicker heat up and cool down, but for me it's the ability to adjust the flavour of your liquid that is biggest gain.

How does that work then ?

[VapingBad]

Jan 15, 2016 20:16:29 GMT juicehead said:

Jan 15, 2016 17:14:10 GMT VapingBad said:

When you get, I find you can run more power through an atty than with Kanthal plus get a much much quicker heat up and cool down, but for me it's the ability to adjust the flavour of your liquid that is biggest gain.

How does that work then ?

You can run at the absolute wicking limit with no danger of over cooking the liquid, some atties won't have the room for the coils required, but once you get above the boiling point of the liquid adding heat doesn't help much.   Also you don't get the coils temps jump when you inhale is not constant, if you not pulling enough air through for part of the vape it scales down.  I suppose it is more applicable to tanks as you can just drench a dripper and not care about wicking.

[Deleted]

Just noticed you're going to try temp control with a Crius xs2man. From one Scotsman to another, its a complete pain in the hole, you've more chance of shitting a melon than getting a workable dual coil in there. Good luck with it. Should you manage it without getting the temp protection warning coming on as soon as you pull the trigger, it shorting out on the chimney or the complete thing going into meltdown and landing in the bottom of your atty looking like a piece of wrecked fencing wire, please post a pic and tell us how you managed it.

[VapingBad]

Dual coil tip: cut both bits exactly the same length before you start winding the coils then you can compare the bits you cut off and see how closely matched the coils are.

[jtc]

Jan 15, 2016 20:52:59 GMT striker42 said:

Just noticed you're going to try temp control with a Crius xs2man. From one Scotsman to another, its a complete pain in the hole, you've more chance of shitting a melon than getting a workable dual coil in there. Good luck with it. Should you manage it without getting the temp protection warning coming on as soon as you pull the trigger, it shorting out on the chimney or the complete thing going into meltdown and landing in the bottom of your atty looking like a piece of wrecked fencing wire, please post a pic and tell us how you managed it.

Wow I use 3 crius tanks with ss coils in tc all the time with no problems.
I use a DNA200 and right now at 50w 420F
No problems at all

[jtc]

[jtc]

Ss coils are great as you can have touching coils and glow them
Ive done around 15ml of juice on them
Scotch roll wicking works great

[Deleted]

Maybe need to try ss instead of Ni200. Link for the ss wire jtc ?

[jtc]

I find 317L great and works well on my evic mini also
www.wireandstuff.co.uk/products/Stainless-Steel-Wire.html