Man has to inform police in advance of having sex

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Jan 22, 2016 21:26:01 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

Jan 22, 2016 21:14:34 GMT b1mble said:

I could seriously go off on one here. I nearly ended up on the Sex Offender's Register once.

Because of totally untrue allegations.

Screwed my life up something rotten while the investigation into lies took 3 months.

The replies of six witnesses were completely ignored for 3 months while my life was made hell.

*-SARIN-* and I both stated that the penalties for people who .ale false and malicious claims should be subjected to harsher measures.

Certainly in the cases of the people i know the accusers were given no penalty or reprimand.

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Jan 22, 2016 21:09:49 GMT Get Off My Cloud said:

Jan 22, 2016 20:51:53 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2003/42/part/2/crossheading/risk-of-sexual-harm-orders

Have a read. It may shed some light on the subject.

The legislation also covers vulnerable adults. 

A chief officer of police may by complaint to a magistrates' court apply for an order under this section (a “risk of sexual harm order”) in respect of a person aged 18 or over (“the defendant”) who resides in his police area or who the chief officer believes is in, or is intending to come to, his police area if it appears to the chief officer that—

(a)the defendant has on at least two occasions, whether before or after the commencement of this Part, done an act within subsection (3), and

(b)as a result of those acts, there is reasonable cause to believe that it is necessary for such an order to be made.

Subsection 3 lists.

(a)engaging in sexual activity involving a child or in the presence of a child;

(b)causing or inciting a child to watch a person engaging in sexual activity or to look at a moving or still image that is sexual;

(c)giving a child anything that relates to sexual activity or contains a reference to such activity;

(d)communicating with a child, where any part of the communication is sexual.

Firstly none of those listed acts appear to apply to this case, secondly even if this does also apply to vulnerable adults which it doesn't say anywhere on the page you linked to nor in the news item.
He was not found to have done any act.

We have now gone way beyond guilty until proven innocent which is Orwellian enough and moved into the territory of guilty when found not guilty.

As we don't have access to this gentleman's CRO it is impossible to state with conviction (excuse the pun) if the imposition of the order is linked to the stated (innocent) case.

I stated a number if posts back that it does not necessarily link to this case.

[b1mble]

Jan 22, 2016 21:28:22 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

Jan 22, 2016 21:26:01 GMT RangersBillyBoy said:

*-SARIN-* and I both stated that the penalties for people who .ale false and malicious claims should be subjected to harsher measures.

Certainly in the cases of the people i know the accusers were given no penalty or reprimand.

And here. I'm still expected to have to deal with this individual though I will never do so without others in the room.

The joys of work in care...

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Here's a thought. Do you suspect that the sexual harm order is being used in a way that it wasn't originally intended for? Function creep is a bitch, vote net neutrality and say no to the Investigatory Powers Act!

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www.cps.gov.uk/legal/s_to_u/sentencing_and_ancillary_orders_applications/#a51

It would appear that this gentleman must have received one of the following:
Conviction, caution, not guilty by insanity or under a disability with regards to offences under Sexual Offences Act s3 or s5.

Not necessarily linked to the OP link.

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Jan 22, 2016 21:33:38 GMT *-SARIN-* said:

Here's a thought. Do you suspect that the sexual harm order is being used in a way that it wasn't originally intended for? Function creep is a bitch, vote net neutrality and say no to the Investigatory Powers Act!

As far as I'm aware RIPA was undermined by the Human Rights Act. Councils also misused it spying on people filling their bins too full for example.

Like any legislation, it is open to abuse.

[b1mble]

Like the HRA has any effect on what "they" want to happen.

But that's enough paranoia for one night...

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Jan 22, 2016 21:56:33 GMT b1mble said:

But that's enough paranoia for one night...

Carry on....