FT shipping batteries bye bye

[nanotm]

funny thing about li-po batts unlike li-ion they have been in a non commercial investigative stage since the late 70's, are too unstable to be mass produced and whilst limited success has been found any change in pressure of more than 50mb is enough to cause spontaneous combustion ( which means just normal weather changes can do it ), true li-po cells have a 50% increase in power capacity and efficiency but so far no lab created unit has ever managed to enter commercial production.... certain technologies have been transferred across from one to the other like the polymer shell (a danger all on its own) that allows a mouldable cell to be formed and used as required, unfortunately the same mouldable cell tech is the reason its so dangerous because the structure gets damaged by the incorrect non uniform application of pressure to the cell structure often leading to electrolyte leackage or delamination within the internal structure, both things can cause spontaneous destruction ....

several stories have been produced that demonstrate just how dangerous li-ion cells are in various different states and packing methods, yet when there fitted (more than 90% of commercial aircraft utilise li-ion cell packs) and in use they trasit around the globe quite well (indeed the main part of a battery on the majority of aircraft was for many years called an alkaline gell cell, and they operated with lithium ion conductors) twice the power for 1/3rd the weight of other liquid cells

so the primary problem is not the parts within the cells but how they are put together and any impurities in the manufacturing process ...

[sc00terx]

how will this work from now on if they wont ship by plane ??

[sydsut]

I think they will do everything in their power to get a new shipper arranged ASAP as a hell of a lot of their business is in Electronics with batteries built in. Mobiles, tablets, laptops, digital watches too name a few. I've a shipment on hold because of a watch battery

[nanotm]

yeah very true pretty much every electronic device's power unit in the world is either made / assembled or packaged in china I cant see all the I-chavs being happy about no new releases for the next decade because of power cell shortages .....

surface ships were never the best way to move goods, although they can do the job too much cargo gets damaged through salt moisture....

fortunately the CAA/FAA rulings only apply to passenger /cargo flights not all cargo flights (that's down to the operator) unfortunately only a handful of postal options use their own cargo hauliers the rest rely on passenger freight space ...

[sc00terx]

ah thanks for the info always


sc00terx

[Lee]

Its happened in the past with exports on the batteries
Last time they shipped by land and sea
From memory, battery orders were taking up to three months to be delivered
Just give them time to find another courier

It looks like my rx200 and batteries must have cut it fine on making it onto a plane

FT removed Sweden post for batteries on the 3rd

2016-03-03 13:33 Order departed on flight from origin
2016-02-24 14:17 Item received for processing
2016-02-23 05:00 Item pre-advice received

Just hope I aint got a duff battery in theorder

[calnorth]

D. Mail July 2015. Missed this but was not 18650 reliant vaper then: (writing on walls?)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3165837/Boeing-warns-airlines-against-flying-battery-shipments.html

[calnorth]

GearBest today:

Another notice from Gearbest is that we won't sell battery in future
Cause the worse shipping way, its too slow for clients

[aaront903]

I ordered from ft on 22.2.16 and gb on 4.3.16 both shipped,should I be OK? ft by Sweden post and gb by NL

[Lee]

Just keep an eye on your tracking numbers

17track seems to be one of the better trackers to use

My tracking update for the 03 03 was only added today

So it looks like they have used their resources for shifting packages, then left the keyboard bashing and paperwork for when things quietened down

If your not sure about tracking your packages, share the tracking numbers to see what can be found

[Lee]

The Sweden post fiasco is getting worse

Five pages of people reporting the same problem, covering about twenty countries
www.fasttech.com/forums/shipping/t/2056370/package-sent-back/1

Lots of people reporting tracking like mine


2016-03-16 21:02 Local mail tracking

2016-03-12 11:01 Order departed from sorting hub

2016-03-03 13:33 Order departed on flight from origin

2016-02-24 14:17 Item received for processing

2016-02-23 05:00 Item pre-advice received

Some have had the same status I highlighted in red showing for a month

[Deleted]

I had an order for a spare smartphone battery from Bangood dispatched via Sweden Post on 3/3/16.
The tracking updated to pre-advice received on 4/3/16 then nothing until 2 days ago when "warning notice 03/05/16 17:25" appeared. I contacted Bangood and they replied that my order was one of many that had been returned due to a ban on li-on batteries. Paypal payment was refunded immediately with apology. Looks like Sweden is no longer an option.

[Lee]

Posted on their support forum today

Hello, everyone. Thank you for your posts here.

I have checked most of the orders mentioned in this thread, many packages have already arrived at destination but haven't delivered after 1-2 weeks. Generally, packages can be delivered within 3-7 business days after they were sent to destination country's postal center. As per your posts, I assume that your orders might be stuck at your customs for security inspection.

FastTech is able to file complaint case towards post office when the tracking information stop updating for more than 2 weeks, please kindly create a ticket for the involved orders, service staff will help you to file complaint case towards post office.

On the other hand, we will contact post office to know more additional information about this situation and update here once there is any feedback.

Thank you for your patience and understanding.

www.fasttech.com/forums/shipping/t/1105635/sweden-post-tracking?2071778

[calnorth]

Today in my FT tracking: www.directlink.com/en/Pages/home.aspx

24/03/16 20:59 "Due to recent terrorist activities in Europe, increased security measures are now in force indefinitely.Your package may be delayed due to these precautions. We apologise for any inconvenience caused."


Just kill terrorists...constantly!