Re-juiced MHRA Compliance.

[yorkshireman]

I received this e-mail and thought i would share it.


How will REJUICED be effected by the new laws (TPD) ?

On May the 20th 2016 the Tobacco Products Directive comes into force for e-cigarettes and e-liquids but Rejuiced won't let this prevent us from selling our amazing juices!







We are ready to be MHRA compliant by the deadline of 19th of November, before then we will continue selling 30ml bottles as usual and then existing stock until the 19th May 2017 so look out for some great offers and competitions before we say goodbye to 30ml!







When we are forced to only sell 10ml bottles we will make sure you continue to get great deals and offers at Rejuiced prices!

[anon4]

I don't see it making a massive difference so long as supplies stay the same price. Bottles are like 13p from some places so you may pay 26p extra for a 30ml order. That's if they are fair with pricing that is. Postage won't be affected either because 10mls still fit through the letter box. I just started mixing my own and would like to know if I mixed to a 30ml plus bottle for personal use would I get it taken away?

[nanotm]

anon4

it might be advisable to buy some TPD compliant products (couple of 10ml bottles correctly labled) in a few months once they become stocked and then you can just rinse them out and refill with your days worth of juice, to be honest that's what I intend to do and i'll keep making up my normal 100ml bottles for use at home and just decant a bit each time i'm going to need a refill when not at home

this way there can be nobody questioning what i'm using after 19 may 2017 and will avoid and possible hiccups should there be some overzealous enforcement guy ready to jump up and down with a clipboard

[Ron]

I know its American but the FDA are more uptight than the UK but the idea must be the same thought

From Facebook
I called the FDA to ask them how these new regulations affect me as a DIYer and this is what they emailed me back:
Thank you for contacting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regarding its recently finalized rule, “Deeming Tobacco Products to be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act” (Deeming rule).
You indicated that you are a consumer that mixes e-liquids in your home for personal use. If you are mixing these components for personal consumption only, then you are not regulated by the FDA. If you are mixing these components and then selling them to others, you would be considered both a retailer and a manufacturer. A retailer includes any person who sells tobacco products to individuals for personal consumption, and a manufacturer means any person, including any repacker and/or relabeler, who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, processes, or labels a finished tobacco product.
To assist the newly-regulated tobacco industry in complying with the requirements, the FDA has published the Small Entity Compliance Guide (need link) which is intended to help small businesses understand and comply with the Deeming rule. The Retailer Overview of FDA Regulations for Selling Tobacco Products (need link) gives a concise summary of what retailers selling tobacco products must do to comply with all applicable federal laws. The E-Cigarette product specific page (need link) is another useful site lists some of the requirements that directly apply to manufacturers.

[toots]

May 13, 2016 21:17:37 GMT Ron said:

I know its American but the FDA are more uptight than the UK but the idea must be the same thought

From Facebook
I called the FDA to ask them how these new regulations affect me as a DIYer and this is what they emailed me back:
Thank you for contacting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regarding its recently finalized rule, “Deeming Tobacco Products to be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act” (Deeming rule).
You indicated that you are a consumer that mixes e-liquids in your home for personal use. If you are mixing these components for personal consumption only, then you are not regulated by the FDA. If you are mixing these components and then selling them to others, you would be considered both a retailer and a manufacturer. A retailer includes any person who sells tobacco products to individuals for personal consumption, and a manufacturer means any person, including any repacker and/or relabeler, who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, processes, or labels a finished tobacco product.
To assist the newly-regulated tobacco industry in complying with the requirements, the FDA has published the Small Entity Compliance Guide (need link) which is intended to help small businesses understand and comply with the Deeming rule. The Retailer Overview of FDA Regulations for Selling Tobacco Products (need link) gives a concise summary of what retailers selling tobacco products must do to comply with all applicable federal laws. The E-Cigarette product specific page (need link) is another useful site lists some of the requirements that directly apply to manufacturers.

I wish they wouldn't keep referring to our vaping products as "tobacco" products. Jeeze we've all given up tobacco for goulds sake

THERE IS NO TOBACCO IN E-LIQUID    

[GunJack]

May 13, 2016 22:11:08 GMT toots said:

May 13, 2016 21:17:37 GMT Ron said:

I know its American but the FDA are more uptight than the UK but the idea must be the same thought

From Facebook
I called the FDA to ask them how these new regulations affect me as a DIYer and this is what they emailed me back:
Thank you for contacting the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) regarding its recently finalized rule, “Deeming Tobacco Products to be Subject to the Federal Food, Drug and Cosmetic Act, as Amended by the Family Smoking Prevention and Tobacco Control Act” (Deeming rule).
You indicated that you are a consumer that mixes e-liquids in your home for personal use. If you are mixing these components for personal consumption only, then you are not regulated by the FDA. If you are mixing these components and then selling them to others, you would be considered both a retailer and a manufacturer. A retailer includes any person who sells tobacco products to individuals for personal consumption, and a manufacturer means any person, including any repacker and/or relabeler, who manufactures, fabricates, assembles, processes, or labels a finished tobacco product.
To assist the newly-regulated tobacco industry in complying with the requirements, the FDA has published the Small Entity Compliance Guide (need link) which is intended to help small businesses understand and comply with the Deeming rule. The Retailer Overview of FDA Regulations for Selling Tobacco Products (need link) gives a concise summary of what retailers selling tobacco products must do to comply with all applicable federal laws. The E-Cigarette product specific page (need link) is another useful site lists some of the requirements that directly apply to manufacturers.

I wish they wouldn't keep referring to our vaping products as "tobacco" products. Jeeze we've all given up tobacco for goulds sake

THERE IS NO TOBACCO IN E-LIQUID    

no toots there isn't... but if you read the FDA regs, ANY COMPONENT including batteries, wicks, wire, etc. that can be used to consume a tobacco product is under this rule.... and there's even less tobacco in some silica wick or a roll of kanthal than there is in jiuce

[VapingBad]

May 13, 2016 20:45:03 GMT nanotm said:

anon4

it might be advisable to buy some TPD compliant products (couple of 10ml bottles correctly labled) in a few months once they become stocked and then you can just rinse them out and refill with your days worth of juice, to be honest that's what I intend to do and i'll keep making up my normal 100ml bottles for use at home and just decant a bit each time i'm going to need a refill when not at home

this way there can be nobody questioning what i'm using after 19 may 2017 and will avoid and possible hiccups should there be some overzealous enforcement guy ready to jump up and down with a clipboard

No no no no no, the TPD (UK implementation at least) is point of sale regulation and has sod all to say about what you can vape or the bottle you carry your liquid in, please do not spread this completely wrong info around there is more than enough uncertainty ATM.



ETA TPD compliant bottles are fill once so you can't refill them anyway.

[nanotm]

May 13, 2016 22:25:35 GMT VapingBad said:

May 13, 2016 20:45:03 GMT nanotm said:

anon4

it might be advisable to buy some TPD compliant products (couple of 10ml bottles correctly labled) in a few months once they become stocked and then you can just rinse them out and refill with your days worth of juice, to be honest that's what I intend to do and i'll keep making up my normal 100ml bottles for use at home and just decant a bit each time i'm going to need a refill when not at home

this way there can be nobody questioning what i'm using after 19 may 2017 and will avoid and possible hiccups should there be some overzealous enforcement guy ready to jump up and down with a clipboard

No no no no no, the TPD is point of sale regulation and has sod all to say about what you can vape or the bottle you carry your liquid in, please do not spread this completely wrong info around there is more than enough uncertainty ATM.

ETA TPD compliant bottles are fill once so you can't refill them anyway.

I was actually meaning that in order to avoid any unpleasantness with some council jobs worth I was intending to get some tpd compliant bottles and reuse them, so regardless of what I have in my pocket it would appear to be the bought from a shop with the correct labelling should one such individual spy me refilling my tank after the final date next year, not that it was legally required.....

as to how to refill them, it will either be with a hypodermic syringe that fits inside the nozzle or it will be flipping the nozzle off the bottle and pouring it in (depending on how the bottles are made), not because I actually give a fat rats arse about the regulations but because its simpler to play the game an at least pretend I do

[VapingBad]

May 13, 2016 23:00:15 GMT nanotm said:

May 13, 2016 22:25:35 GMT VapingBad said:

No no no no no, the TPD is point of sale regulation and has sod all to say about what you can vape or the bottle you carry your liquid in, please do not spread this completely wrong info around there is more than enough uncertainty ATM.

ETA TPD compliant bottles are fill once so you can't refill them anyway.

I was actually meaning that in order to avoid any unpleasantness with some council jobs worth I was intending to get some tpd compliant bottles and reuse them, so regardless of what I have in my pocket it would appear to be the bought from a shop with the correct labelling should one such individual spy me refilling my tank after the final date next year, not that it was legally required.....

as to how to refill them, it will either be with a hypodermic syringe that fits inside the nozzle or it will be flipping the nozzle off the bottle and pouring it in (depending on how the bottles are made), not because I actually give a fat rats arse about the regulations but because its simpler to play the game an at least pretend I do

For what?  The TPD (UK) does not say anything about what you or I can vape or carry around, it is only point of sale legislation. There is no UK authority, law, by-law or whatever that can nick you or give you a hard time about anything we are legally vaping now after the TPD is on full effect.

[anon4]

I can see the scare stories already. Much like counterfeit cigarettes we will have "counterfeit" eliquid. These can contain:

Diacetyl
Antifreeze
Formaldehyde